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    Quote Originally Posted by Equalizer View Post
    T09...kg,

    I am impressed.
    4 Seasons and you still have BOTH of them.
    They usually end up separated or divorced by then.
    Kinda like socks.
    Haha. No, that’s the brand new replacement pair. The old ones needed to be replaced anyways because they were starting to fall apart, but I probably wouldn’t have if I hadn’t lost one of them


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    I know the conversation has trended to gloves/mittens but the OP also asked for other equipment and I would heartily recommend the new mini evo loops (that's what I call them, not sure what he does) from Jeff Myers as a means of attaching my tarp to the CRL. On my most recent trip, my hands got unusually cold and I wasn't able to manipulate the old zing-it loop-and-knot contraption. I contacted Jeff and he set me up with the new loops which I think will solve all my tarp attachment issues. Great guy to deal with.

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    One thing not mentioned yet... shell mittens such as MLD eVent rain mitts to go over whatever gloves you're wearing. They greatly reduce heat loss from wind.
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    Practice setting up with gloves on with your chosen suspension.
    I have been enjoying theses Minus33 merino gloves of late as a first glove layer. They fit tight so I can work my suspension and lots of other chores with them on.
    Then I slip on my next layer or my mitts...https://www.stormykromer.com/tough-mitts/ and get the hands happy.
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    I favor the glitten (glove/mitten) or a glove liner in a mitten/gaunlet. I use thicker cord for tarp ridge line and I use figure-9's or some other lineloc so I don't need to work with knots - not like there is anything wrong with that.

    I usually have a couple pair with me as the one used for camp setup can get a little wet from sweat and/or snow. I could toy with a vaper-barrier liner but haven't had the need so far. We seldom get down to single digits.
    In order to see what few have seen, you must go where few have gone. And DO what few have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradA72 View Post
    Keeping your core warm is important for keeping extremities warm.
    I like to use a light set of contact gloves with good dexterity and put a beefier pair over them.
    But pretty much if I need the dexterity I just have my puffy gloves, pull them off, do the chore put them back on.
    I firmly agree. I heard it expressed as, "if your hands are cold, put on a warmer jacket".

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    Lots of good ideas!

    Here's a couple more that I practice as a routine.
    My hands are often cold and I've had hundreds of comments by people whose hands I shake in public and work. A doctor would give it a $1,000 latinised term and send me a bill with NO solution.

    I try to get to the CAUSE of a challenge instead. The following may also help someone. I've helped others with heart disease, diabetics and me...cold hands.
    What causes cold extremities for some won't necessarily be your issue. Nevertheless, this is what I do.

    1. Food/beverage journal
    2. Herbs/foods that help circulation
    3. Exercise

    Here's a short video on circulation:

    https://www.brighteon.com/6042393529001

    Its too late and I just got over insomnia, so I'll leave it at that. Besides, this might be better suited for another thread or short article/blog.
    Last edited by Equalizer; 12-17-2019 at 02:47.

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    Take a tip from Shug and make sure your wrists are warm. I have a few pairs of wristies fingerless gloves in different weights that I wear under my liner glove. They stay on all the time. Over the wristies go a pair of synthetic liner gloves which are good for any time I am moving. I also use the mitten-gloves with or without liner gloves at times, so I can pull back the mitten and expose my fingers for more intricate work.

    Possumm Down gloves have been on my short list for a few seasons.. just haven't pulled the trigger on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clisbyclark View Post
    I know the conversation has trended to gloves/mittens but the OP also asked for other equipment and I would heartily recommend the new mini evo loops (that's what I call them, not sure what he does) from Jeff Myers as a means of attaching my tarp to the CRL. On my most recent trip, my hands got unusually cold and I wasn't able to manipulate the old zing-it loop-and-knot contraption. I contacted Jeff and he set me up with the new loops which I think will solve all my tarp attachment issues. Great guy to deal with.
    My three season tarp uses Tarp Worms at the ground corners and a DIY loop and knot setup at the ridge line.. And for most of the winter I use those on my winter tarp as well. With stiff 1.2 Z-Line it's very easy to use them with gloves on. However, if the weather looks like a real deep freeze I switch to longer guylines (in case I need to bury a line in deep snow) and use mini-ucrs which I can adjust with big mittens on.

    On the ridge line I switch back to a continuous ridge line that uses a toggle instead of the smaller loop and diamond knots, and mini ucrs instead of prussikcs (I hate prussiks, and all of my RLs use mini ucrs).
    Hammock suspension stays the same.. simple twelve to fifteen foot straps with a becket hitch to the continuous loops.
    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    One thing not mentioned yet... shell mittens such as MLD eVent rain mitts to go over whatever gloves you're wearing. They greatly reduce heat loss from wind.
    +1 for the eVent mittens.. these are almost always in my kit. Mine are either MLD or REI.. can't remember. They are easy on and easy off. Easily go over the wristie and liner glove and weight an ounce or two.
    Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    I hate prussiks....
    Whew! Someone finally said it. I thought I was just weird and the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarome View Post
    Whew! Someone finally said it. I thought I was just weird and the only one.
    Try the kleimheist, or do knots in general cause the consternation?

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