What is this knot?

[GeneH]

Though I use this slipped half hitch (with a slippery finish) all the time for non-critical light load applications, after reading this thread I think the midshipman's hitch would be a better choice. (thanks WBJOHN or pointing that out)

No plan on falling overboard in the middle of the woods, this still can be relevant to how we can use it, tied under load, not constricting, and adjustable:
"A bowline cannot be tied under load. Two Half Hitches will slide and constrict [you]. The Rolling Hitch is the answer. Even as the second turn is tucked “up” into the correct place, the major strain is taken and the final Half Hitch can be tied with less urgency."[https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans-hitch-knot]


And it probably will work really well with a slippery finish.

[Cabmanhang]

Though I use this slipped half hitch (with a slippery finish) all the time for non-critical light load applications, after reading this thread I think the midshipman's hitch would be a better choice. (thanks WBJOHN or pointing that out)

No plan on falling overboard in the middle of the woods, this still can be relevant to how we can use it, tied under load, not constricting, and adjustable:
"A bowline cannot be tied under load. Two Half Hitches will slide and constrict [you]. The Rolling Hitch is the answer. Even as the second turn is tucked “up” into the correct place, the major strain is taken and the final Half Hitch can be tied with less urgency."[https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans-hitch-knot]


And it probably will work really well with a slippery finish.

Midshipmans hitch, also known as the "Tautline hitch". This is a great knot which works very well with most rope. One known exception is amsteel. If you don't do an end bury, it can pull through. The solution is to add an extra loop to the inside of the tautline and have an end bury to keep it from pulling through.

Another user greyhound352 ( https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...light=tautline ) previously suggested using the Grip Hitch on the more slippery rope. I've found the Grip Hitch to be one of the most useful knots.

Everyone does it their own way. The more knots you know, the better.

[GeneH]

Midshipmans hitch, also known as the "Tautline hitch".

This is interesting:
Regrettable Change: The 1948 (5th edition) of the Boy Scout Handbook included the Midshipman’s Hitch Knot but used the name Taut-Line Hitch. Inexplicably, after the 5th edition, the Boy Scout Handbook retained the name but showed in its place the less secure version (ABOK # 1856, p 310). [https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans-hitch-knot]

I have to actually look at this more - I think the taut-line hitch goes around through the loop, and the Midshipman's goes over the loop, but I don't really know yet. I just picked this up when reading this thread, so what do I know?

[cmoulder]

This is interesting:
Regrettable Change: The 1948 (5th edition) of the Boy Scout Handbook included the Midshipman’s Hitch Knot but used the name Taut-Line Hitch. Inexplicably, after the 5th edition, the Boy Scout Handbook retained the name but showed in its place the less secure version (ABOK # 1856, p 310). [https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans-hitch-knot]

I have to actually look at this more - I think the taut-line hitch goes around through the loop, and the Midshipman's goes over the loop, but I don't really know yet. I just picked this up when reading this thread, so what do I know?

Yes, on the final wrap the Tautline is reversed, goes in the same direction with Midshipmen's.

[GeneH]

...amsteel. If you don't do an end bury, it can pull through. The solution is to add an extra loop to the inside of the tautline and have an end bury to keep it from pulling through.

Another user greyhound352 ( https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...light=tautline ) previously suggested using the Grip Hitch on the more slippery rope. I've found the Grip Hitch to be one of the most useful knots.

Everyone does it their own way. The more knots you know, the better.

Thank you for the reference to burying the end of the slippery stuff... (I'm using zing-it) and will have to check out the Grip Hitch. Pretty new to dyneema-types and knots in general confound me.

[Cabmanhang]

Yes, on the final wrap the Tautline is reversed, goes in the same direction with Midshipmen's.

Wow. Such a simple difference.

From the same page: "We should all urge Scouting organizations to be consistent with Ashley’s nomenclature and abandon both the Taut Line Hitch, and its name, and teach instead the Midshipman’s Hitch. To reinforce the need for this change, the misspelling “Taught Line Hitch” is astonishingly widespread"

So the AKA is simply a historical error? Is that what I'm seeing?

[GeneH]

Midshipmans hitch, also known as the "Tautline hitch". This is a great knot which works very well with most rope. Everyone does it their own way. The more knots you know, the better.

Yes, on the final wrap the Tautline is reversed, goes in the same direction with Midshipmen's.

Oh bloody heck. That's ? I had to try it. Yep. Sheesh.

[GeneH]

Wow. Such a simple difference.

From the same page: "We should all urge Scouting organizations to be consistent with Ashley’s nomenclature and abandon both the Taut Line Hitch, and its name, and teach instead the Midshipman’s Hitch. To reinforce the need for this change, the misspelling “Taught Line Hitch” is astonishingly widespread"

So the AKA is simply a historical error? Is that what I'm seeing?

Sure looks that way. And here I am for a few years trying to remember the correct way to tie a taut-line hitch when I was actually doing a Midshipman's Hitch if I did an incorrect taut-line. Now I'll just do a Midshipman's with a couple extra loops.

[GoneShootn]

I have used the Grip Hitch successfully on a 7/64 Amsteel hammock adjustable ridgeline, although I have found that, since I never adjust the ridgelne, it is just a waste of good rope. So I'm going to fixed ridgelines with paracord, maybe the 275 version since the 550 is a bit large for my Hangtime Hooks. Or I may just adjust the Hooks a bit. Decisions, decisions. :-)

[cmoulder]

Wow. Such a simple difference.

From the same page: "We should all urge Scouting organizations to be consistent with Ashley’s nomenclature and abandon both the Taut Line Hitch, and its name, and teach instead the Midshipman’s Hitch. To reinforce the need for this change, the misspelling “Taught Line Hitch” is astonishingly widespread"

So the AKA is simply a historical error? Is that what I'm seeing?

I suppose so... they're so similar that one was probably thought of as a variation of the other. I don't know how long tautline has been around but midshipman's must date back a few hundred years, so tautline is perhaps the variation.

Just a guess.