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    Senior Member Silverpalm2x's Avatar
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    Regular or wide? Asymmetrical or no?

    Suggestions on the chameleon? I weigh less than 200lbs I was thinking a regular with asymetrical bugnet..

    Can people share with me the pros and cons of other options?

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    I can't speak to the width question...my Chameleon is regular width but I only weigh 130 lbs and I'm 5'7".

    I have used both the asym and symmetrical bugnets though, and prefer the symmetrical. There's more netting material and you have to be aware it might tend to droop in your face. But it allows you to flop inside the hammock from head-left/feet-right to head-right/feet-left without reversing the bugnet's orientation (assuming you are not using the ground tie-outs, which I find unnecessary). It seems like the view out the hammock is more expansive, too.

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    Coming from a Blackbird, I assume you have your lay direction preference established. If you always lay the same direction, then IMO there's no reason to go symmetrical - it adds weight, bulk, and gives a less streamlined hammock/net shape. Even with the asym bugnet, you could change direction, but only by removing and flipping the net over. Personally I can only tolerate laying head right feet left, so for me the symmetrical covers would be a disadvantage. YMMV of course, but that's my take.

    As to width, I think the standard is a wee bit narrow and the wide is much too wide for my taste (lots of excess, floppy fabric). I wish there was an in between width, but given the actual choices, I prefer the standard. 6'1" 175lbs for reference.

    Considering the sale, maybe give some thought to other Chameleon accessories like the sidecar, sidesling, peak shelf. Each of those has certain advantages.

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    I like the wider Hammock I feel like I have more room and more of a flat lay
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    Thanks for the comments and advice. I went with the Half zipped. I didnt see myself buying a top cover later and swapping all that stuff around. I have been using the Blackbird for many a year and am looking forward to a new hammock. I am hoping that the 11' gets rid of the calf ridge.

    shh dont tell but I got a new hammock for my daughter as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverpalm2x View Post
    Thanks for the comments and advice. I went with the Half zipped. I didnt see myself buying a top cover later and swapping all that stuff around. I have been using the Blackbird for many a year and am looking forward to a new hammock. I am hoping that the 11' gets rid of the calf ridge.

    shh dont tell but I got a new hammock for my daughter as well.
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    At 6' 200# i've found i'm happiest in my wide Chameleon with the Symetrical bugnet. I used my asym winter cover a couple weeks ago and realized just how much I missed the Sym bugnet. I don't know if i'll ever want to go back to an asym lay. Just my 2cents
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    thanks Dutch looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverpalm2x View Post
    Thanks for the comments and advice. I went with the Half zipped. I didnt see myself buying a top cover later and swapping all that stuff around. I have been using the Blackbird for many a year and am looking forward to a new hammock. I am hoping that the 11' gets rid of the calf ridge.

    shh dont tell but I got a new hammock for my daughter as well.
    Apparently, they changed the bug net to a symmetrical on it since I bought mine. Mine is a head left, but I noticed over the past year that I prefer head right so I'm debating on getting a new Half Zipped or just moving up to the Chameleon. Like you, I don't need a topcover or all the extra accessories. The only advantage the Chameleon has is zippers on both sides. Handy when need to adjust the uq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLTurtle View Post
    Apparently, they changed the bug net to a symmetrical on it since I bought mine. Mine is a head left, but I noticed over the past year that I prefer head right so I'm debating on getting a new Half Zipped or just moving up to the Chameleon. Like you, I don't need a topcover or all the extra accessories. The only advantage the Chameleon has is zippers on both sides. Handy when need to adjust the uq.
    Aw man I forgot about that! I hope there are clips to hold the underquilt in placeso I don't have to fiddle with it. Although I am also hoping without a footbox I won't have to monkey with it as much. I hope I don't regret detail. I was trying to stay in budget.

    I hope to get a chance to set it up this weekend and test it out.
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