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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    Reminds of one of the few regrets I have since starting to hammock years ago.

    A custom set of summer quilts were offered for sale a few months ago. Both quilts were in 7D. with 900 or 950 fp. I knew the seller personally.. hiked and camped with him a few times and knew how he cared for his gear. Weights were ridiculously low. Price was great and I loved the color. But summer had just ended and I figured I had my quilts well enough sorted. I ended up replacing all of my economy quilts this year.. and in retrospect, I wish I bought those UL quilts.

    Happy you got what you were looking for. Friday will be here soon enough
    I have a 50° Operator Ghost Pepper in 7D/900FP that I'm always waffling on whether I want to keep. Not because I don't like it or there's anything wrong with it, but because I also have a 40° E.E. Enigma in 7D/950FP that I think I like a little more. If I ever do decide to let go of the Ghost Pepper, I'll give you a heads up before putting it in the FS forum. I know you did a quilt overhaul not long ago, but you never know...

    Specs on the Operator Ghost Pepper:
    Length 75"
    Width 50"
    Outer Shell: Black Membrane 7
    Inner Shell: Black Membrane 7
    Black stitching
    900FP Downtek: 5.5oz
    With the 7D fabric, I believe total weight is right around 10oz, IIRC.

    Here's the whole 50° Operator TQ/UQ set in one stuff sack (together they probably take up ~2L of space):


    The Operator set is the middle sack in this image (left sack is 40° Enigma & 40° Premium Phoenix):

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmc4free View Post
    I have a 50° Operator Ghost Pepper in 7D/900FP that I'm always waffling on whether I want to keep. Not because I don't like it or there's anything wrong with it, but because I also have a 40° E.E. Enigma in 7D/950FP that I think I like a little more. If I ever do decide to let go of the Ghost Pepper, I'll give you a heads up before putting it in the FS forum. I know you did a quilt overhaul not long ago, but you never know...

    Specs on the Operator Ghost Pepper:
    Length 75"
    Width 50"
    Outer Shell: Black Membrane 7
    Inner Shell: Black Membrane 7
    Black stitching
    900FP Downtek: 5.5oz
    With the 7D fabric, I believe total weight is right around 10oz, IIRC.

    Here's the whole 50° Operator TQ/UQ set in one stuff sack (together they probably take up ~2L of space):


    The Operator set is the middle sack in this image (left sack is 40° Enigma & 40° Premium Phoenix):
    For sure.. please let me know.
    Yes, I replaced everything.. 0F, 20's and 40's and have a Junebug Dawn Synthetic TQ that has a limit of about 55F.. I was cold at 53F. I would at that 50F LLG TQ...
    I have all the material to make a matching synthetic UQ, but the weight and volume look to be more than I expected.. at least in their raw form.

    In your description you noted it is 7D/950fp, but in the specs it says 900fp. Is that a typo or did you do a custom 950fp? Which is it? I've seen this done often and it's usually a typo..
    Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
    Bob's brother-in-law

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    For sure.. please let me know.
    Yes, I replaced everything.. 0F, 20's and 40's and have a Junebug Dawn Synthetic TQ that has a limit of about 55F.. I was cold at 53F. I would at that 50F LLG TQ...
    I have all the material to make a matching synthetic UQ, but the weight and volume look to be more than I expected.. at least in their raw form.

    In your description you noted it is 7D/950fp, but in the specs it says 900fp. Is that a typo or did you do a custom 950fp? Which is it? I've seen this done often and it's usually a typo..
    I don't think I made a typo, but I might have confused the situation by talking about 2 different TQ's in the same post. The LLG 50° is 900FP. The E.E. Enigma 40° is 950FP.

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    And then there are those who would argue that anything above 900, except for Eider, is a mythical number. Montbell claims to use 1000fp for the plasma parka, and I'd like to have one of those puppies.

    But it's funny that the absolute finest down comes from a duck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    Montbell claims to use 1000fp for the plasma parka, and I'd like to have one of those puppies.
    +1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    Friday will be here soon enough

    well Friday came a early, it is out for delivery now. will post pictures and weights later today when I get home from work
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    if you know where to look for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    And then there are those who would argue that anything above 900, except for Eider, is a mythical number. Montbell claims to use 1000fp for the plasma parka, and I'd like to have one of those puppies.

    But it's funny that the absolute finest down comes from a duck!
    You want one of those puppies or a duck?
    Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
    Bob's brother-in-law

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    lol right now I can't justify any more puppies or ducks or geese!!

    I've got enough gear to outfit 4 people... well, for 3-season and mild winter.
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    I got it and weighed it and took pictures of it compressed down in the smallest stuff sack I had.

    total weight is 11.11oz

    here is a few pictures of it compressed

    here it is in a gallon tea pitcher I can press it down about have way do from the top:

    IMG_20200116_163811.jpg

    here it is in a stuff sack next to a 23.7 oz (700ml) smart water bottle (not sure why it turn sideways when I uploaded it, it's not that way ion my computer)

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    I really like the material. it's just barely long enough and if I had to do it again or if I ever ordered one for cold weather I would order the 70in one but this will be fine for what I'm gonna use it for
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    if you know where to look for it.
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    Warm enough by you to give it a go this weekend??

    I have a new 0F I've been wanting to try but it's been too warm, and new 40's I can't use because it's too cold!!

    The new 20's are getting a lot of use though. Hard to have them and not use them....
    Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
    Bob's brother-in-law

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