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    1/8" shock cord loop on silnylon tarp questions: how long for each loop and a few more :)

    So I think I'd like to tie some simple loops on the tie outs for my tarp but even after doing a bunch of google searches I could not find:

    1) What is a good length of the loop to put on each of the tarp tie outs? I read somewhere that the people who create a single cord use about 12", so would that be a good start?

    2) I can understand the appeal on the corners, but should I also have the loops on my two tie outs that would tie to each tree (on either end of the hammock)? I do not have a continuous ridge line but rather 1.5mm dyneema line.

    If it matters, each guyline is 10' 1.5mm dyneema line (including the lines that run to the tree, honestly not sure what this is called on a non continuous ridge line setup).

    3) Would a simple square knot suffice for keeping the loop held or do I need something more fancy?
    Last edited by arooni; 09-22-2019 at 21:44.

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    I use 6" 1/8" loops.
    Do not use shock cord on the Ridgeline!
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    I start with 12" and tie a double fisherman's knot, then cut off the tag ends (usually a couple inches each).

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    ^ yes to that, do not use a square knot as they don't hold in shock cord.
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    Shug has many instructional videos that you may be interested in if you haven't seen them already. This one has some info on tarp tensioners. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GQPY5BuyPI&t=547s

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    +1 on NOT using shock cord on the ridge line. It's my understanding that dyneema and other slimilar cord are not designed for knots. If I were going to use it, I'd put an eye splce at each end. Maybe make a mini-whoopie sling. For guy lines, I use reflective cord; specifically Nite-ese. If I had it to do again, I would choose another brand because the reflective component of that line makes it "not smooth" - so knots like a taut line hitch don't slide as well and a prussic doesn't cinch up easily. It doesn't mean they don't work; it's just a little harder than it needs to be.

    I took some bungee (about 9 inches) - I think 8th inch - and stretch it out. Then I estimated about 80% of its max stretched length. I added the bungee to the tarp side of my guy line and reconnected the guy line to it so it can only stretch to that 80% length, then the guy line holds all the stress. I put the bungee/guy lines at the panel ends. If I have additional tie outs on the tarp - like one in the middle (three on a side), I'll put a bungee guy line there if I have extra.

    I've seen a lot of fancy ways to make these. One of the cleanest put the bungee inside an amsteel cord. But that looked like a lot of work and it seemed needed 7/64th instead of smaller stuff.

    I did research knots specifically for bungee. Initially I was just going to make a loop and larch's head the bungee loop and a guy line loop in the tarp D-ring. I ended up tying the bungee to the guy line loop and just lark's heading that to the D-ring. I don't recall the name of the knot but it was like an overhand knot except with to wraps instead of one.

    There are all kinds of knots that will hold under tension. With bungee, the trick is having it stay tied when not under tension.
    Last edited by cougarmeat; 09-23-2019 at 13:03.
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