https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nts/haven-tent
It looks like an amok draumr and a ridgerunner had a baby
I suspect it will be not a backpacker, but it looks interesting as a concept
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nts/haven-tent
It looks like an amok draumr and a ridgerunner had a baby
I suspect it will be not a backpacker, but it looks interesting as a concept
I started adding up the weight, but noticed it says the entire systems weighs about much as an adult Pomeranian. Alright...totally got it now!
Wait, I have a Pomeranian, and shes an adult! I'll go weigh her now! brb...Originally Posted by OneClick
it's 5 lbs, all in, give or take.
i'm not crazy about the non-standard air pad tho
but it's really grabbed my attention
Looks interesting. To me it seems like a modified bridge hammock with side walls and zipper hoods. If I had not gotten my dh sparrow recently I might have tried this one. Although it's weight limit is not enough me.
On another note I've seen several companies/ people post their projects on the forum to get ideas reviews like Tensa and a few others. I wonder why this one did not.
It's trying to do too much. It probably won't do any of them well. They ask under the hammock category of the comparison chart "Are you a banana?". If they are going after people who think you have to sleep like a banana in a hammock, then they obviously aren't trying to appeal to hammock campers, as they solved the "banana" issue about five minutes after they got their first hammock.
This is like most other kickstarter campaigns: selling a multifunctional product to newbs who don't realize that it will do none of it's functions very well.
I hope they prove me wrong, because I would love a product that could accomplish so many uses effectively. At 6lbs, it better be an allstar if I were going to carry it into the woods.
That was my first thought too. It's heavy and doesn't solve a single problem any experienced hangers have in a tent or a hammock. I've been burned more than once on crowdsourced projects, so maybe that's influencing my opinion, but this product reads more like a made-in-china product aimed at profits than actually contributing to the community, a la cottage vendors.
Jack of all trades and master of none doesn't appeal to me, and at 6lbs it better move mountains to earn a place in my pack. It would be great to wrong about Kickstarter for once, since the concept is a good one, even if it's targeted at inexperienced hikers/beginners.
Have they even used a hammock before? lol....and saying set up for a hammock is 6-8 lines plus a youtube tutorial??!!
"Always pass on what you have learned" - Yoda
"Flat as a pancake" isn't necessarily good.
I remember all too well from my many years on the ground that I slept best when the air mat was minimally inflated so that it fit body contours as closely as possible, whether side or back sleeping. This setup appears to require that the air mat is inflated until it is quite firm in order to hold its shape, so I must wonder how well it can match normal body curves.
Also, with my GE hammocks I do not need a pillow, but one would be required for this system. But at 5-6 lbs weight I suppose a few extra ounces for a pillow won't deter the target market.
And how practical is it when it rains? If another tarp is needed over this rig, then it's starting to get seriously heavy and complicated.
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“If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.” ~ Gen. George S Patton
Yeah I never understand the "flat lay" stuff. Hanging is the whole reason why I sleep so well, and full time at home made my back pain go away. I'm definitely not lying flat...more like a la-z-boy position.
I was looking at mattresses recently and the sales guy (pushier than a used car lot) was hounding me. He had me try the $4200 adjustible bed...I wouldn't spend that if I found $4200 on the street. But it was the most comfortable thing ever...and I told him it was almost identical to my $52 hammock (butt lower, legs slightly higher, head propped up a little)
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