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    Senior Member MikekiM's Avatar
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    I haven't used an MSH in ages, but when I did I used a fiberglass driveway marker for a while.. then switched to a $0.99 aluminum tent stake cut in two.. Then Ti toggles. Never tried a biner.

    Then.. I stopped using the MSH and whoopies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarmeat View Post
    Assuming a correct Marlin Spike, you can clip into the carabiner. But ... You have your tree hugger/strap, then a carabiner, then the whoopie sling that seems to add a minimum of 8 inches per end length overhead. That's just too much extra distance before I get to the hammock. The further apart the trees, the higher up I have to hang the suspension. For those of us who are somewhat height challenged, the limit to the max distance for trees might make the length overhead of whoopies too great. I've been using the simple daisy chain and carabiner for a long time. But I might go back to webbing and buckles this summer for a change.

    When I was playing with whoopies, it was easy to cut a length of wooden dowel about 3 inches long and drill a hole through it for a tether loop.
    In my case I normally use tree strap with carabiner to whoopie. And like you are saying I've had the issue of having too much whoopie and strap between my hammock and the tree. Depending on tree size I sometimes end up with a long section of strap (though still too short to go around tree twice) and that's why in those cases I was thinking of using the marlin spike to get me closer to the tree. Since I already have the carabiner I thought I could use it in place of the toggle, so one less thing for me to bring (and potentially lose). From what I saw on Shug's video you then should put the whoopie over the knot, not the toggle, and that's what made me wonder about cliping to the carabiner. If this keeps being an issue for me I can see me trying the the webbing and buckle set up too.

    Thanks for the reply.

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    Food for thought or another use for wasted parts:. I bought several pairs of Amazon's weneanas (spelling) replacement tent poles to make internal pole mods for my tarp - short story version you have to cut down the poles for a custom fit and the cut down poles are perfect for toggles & I have a bag with like 20 sitting around waiting for use

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    No problem. I ordered some from a well known vendor on this site and that’s what I got.

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