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    The Diagonal Lay

    I tried sleeping in my WBBB XLC for the first time and can’t get super comfy in it. When I try the diagonal lay, the fabric to the right of my torso tightens up and pulls. This causes my left should to go up and results in twisting my back a bit. Any suggestions on what I’m doing wrong?

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    You probably need to raise the foot end 6 to 12 inches. It always helps to go to a group hang where you can meet other hangers who can advise you on what you are doing wrong.
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    How tight is your ridge line as it sounds like you have the hammock hung "too tight".

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    I never have been super comfy in Blackbirds. However, here is my one size fits all advice: It's all in your butt. Everything else follows. So move around. In your case, I'm guessing a minor left/right adjustment will be helpful. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    I never have been super comfy in Blackbirds. However, here is my one size fits all advice: It's all in your butt. Everything else follows. So move around. In your case, I'm guessing a minor left/right adjustment will be helpful. Good luck.
    The question is then, where do you put your butt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer003 View Post
    The question is then, where do you put your butt?
    In the hammock :0

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    I'm new to hammocks. Oldgringo's advice worked for me.

    I struggled right out of the gate with the same issue you faced. Getting my butt in the right place - left to right, forward to back - made it happen. I fiddled less and less each night and hardly at all a week later. Familiarity made my shuffling about more efficient. The first few nights were very frustrating, though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer003 View Post
    The question is then, where do you put your butt?
    Now you're getting personal, Mike.
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    The Wooki underquilt helped me find the favored lay by the manufacturer since my feet were too close to the footend.

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    From Warbonnet website.....Hammock 101.....https://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/hammocks-101/

    Find 2 trees that are ideally 13-17′ apart. Hang the hammock so that “once occupied” the foot end is about 16″ higher than the head end, and by “end” I mean the end of the fabric, not the attachment point on the tree itself. Since the foot end needs to be significantly higher, the easiest way to achieve this is often to just position the hammock much closer to the foot tree AND attach the webbing to the foot tree at head height or above. Having the head end farther away from it’s tree means it will sink more when you get in and that is usually what you want.

    The BB/XLC/Traveler is designed to be laid in “off-center” so that your head is very close to the head end of the hammock while your feet are alot farther away from the foot end. This allows the fabric under your legs to spread out properly when laying on the diagonal. To do this you’ll want to lay so that your eyes are aprox. even with the farthest side tieout (BB or XLC) so that one tieout is even with your eyes and the other is chest level. Once you are laying in this correct spot you will then determine if you want the head/foot end higher or lower. Most people will want it setup so that when your eyes are even with the tieout that you are basically level/horizontal from hips to shoulders, so if your upper body seems too inclined or declined simply move the webbing up or down the tree trunk to adjust.

    Here is a picture that shows much of what I have just described, the person is much closer to the head end than they are to the foot end, but since the foot end is set much higher, the person is very level from hips to shoulders rather than the torso being “inclined”. The hammock is much closer to the foot tree, and also note the upward angle of the suspension straps, you want to shoot for the suspension running upward at roughly 30 deg angle for any hammock.


    Hope that helps.

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