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    Spider poly, UHMWPE tree strap stitching pattern

    What stitching pattern do you use to secure the loop on tree straps?
    Is it different for the light weight webbing?

    Pictures appreciated. I’ve read lots of posts, I just have a hard time committing even once I’ve put it under the foot of the machine.

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    Multiple rows of bar tack, or a box with X in the middle are both common.

    It doesn't come any lighter than the spiderweb 1.5 straps, which use several rows of bar tack.

    Check the images on this category page.

    https://dutchwaregear.com/product-ca...traps-huggers/

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    I use Gutermann Mara 70.
    Originally did faux bar tacks, using a wide zigzag stitch (back and forth, several times).
    I now do lines of stitching along the length in a long zigzag,



    from,
    https://web.archive.org/web/20160301...s.com/load.htm
    (about 2/3rds of the way down the document)

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    That's crazy how the one I see the most - box with an X - is the weakest stich of them all.

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    Guess we see the Box X stitch the most because it's the most esthetically appealing. It gives the most 'professional' result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundtrip Raven View Post
    That's crazy how the one I see the most - box with and X - is the weakest stich of them all.

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    It think it shows how over-engineered our gear truly is hahaha

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    Fine print sez "not for loops"...wonder what that implies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    Fine print sez "not for loops"...wonder what that implies.
    I think this diagram is showing the strongest stitch for a sling like this: https://www.amazon.com/BlueWater-Rop.../dp/B002QS06Z8 not an eye, maybe?

    This diagram has been around for quite some time. I think any of the stitches are perfectly fine for our application and I haven't heard of sewn tree strap failure over the years really at all.



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    I agree, Carter. In the absence of conflicting data, I'm good with this.
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    Whilst that was great research there are a couple of problems trying to apply the findings to hammock tree straps. Firstly the webbing and thread used were many times stronger than we are using. Science tells that trying to extrapolate beyond the data is extremely risky. We just don’t know enough about the differences in how varying grades of webbing behave to extend the conclusions to hammock straps.
    Secondly, as has been pointed out, the stitch patterns are for an open sling not loops. The text makes it clear that loops fail in a very different way and recommends a different sewing pattern, a closely spaced group of bar tacks. It says that spreading the stitches out more widely leads to the stitches farthest from the loop failing first then then next, then the next. However, given my first statement we can’t really know how our webbing will behave in this situation and I suspect most of us don’t use such heavy thread as this guy used.
    We can look at real world experiences of other hammock users though and maybe we’ll find that the stitching is the least of our worries. Connections to the hammock and damage to webbing are more likely to be sources of failure. All the stitch styles in use will give an adequate margin of error, try sewing the different styles and pick the one you like best

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