no more becket, reef it!!!

[chapinb]

Xbend with stopper knot does hold amsteel to amsteel just fine.
As with with webbing, it's also much easier to undo.

[MAD777]

Xbend with stopper knot does hold amsteel to amsteel just fine.
As with with webbing, it's also much easier to undo.

Can you post a picture of that?

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[u.willie]

I never did trust anything to stop the water but a separate drip line. I like the plastic disks someone 3d printed on here. This hammocking thing has no end.

It's raining here now but there will be extremely strong winds. I'm not hanging in 50 to 70 mph steady winds, even though it's like 60*F. It'll be 15*F by morning...with snow.

Agreed on the separate drip line.
50-70 mph winds... temps dropping to 15F w/snow, ice... yep, lol, I'd postpone too!
I've hung in weather like that before, because I was stuck out in it and had no choice, it was "interesting", lol... There can be a bit of a 'pucker factor'.

totally agree. needed a little tug to get it untied. then I went to untie the becket and it was easily twice as hard. I have some 3000lb webbing I'll try tonight. I know I have some 2" buried somewhere I'll try to dig up.

So then, this slippery reefer, X(J) bend, is easier to undo that the standard SBH' but harder to undo than a SBH with a loop in the eye to aid in undoing?

u.w.

[Hefty Hanger]

not sure what u meen

[u.willie]

Xbend with stopper knot does hold amsteel to amsteel just fine.
As with with webbing, it's also much easier to undo.

Is the "stopper knot" essentially what Brandon shows in his Warbonnet video? Pulling another piece/bight, through the loop/bight, created by the initial slippery knot (SBH in the case of the Warbonnet video)?
"Stopper Knot?"

u.w.

[Hefty Hanger]

So then, this slippery reefer, X(J) bend, is easier to undo that the standard SBH' but harder to undo than a SBH with a loop in the eye to aid in undoing?

u.w.

not sure what you mean.

[u.willie]

not sure what you mean.

So far everyone who has tried this 'knot' and posted, has said it is easier to "untie" than a SBH (slippery becket hitch).

Many, myself included, have put a small loop "pull tab of sorts" in the CL, or eye, of our hammock suspension that we use for our SBH when we hang. The "pull tab of sorts" makes undoing the SBH about as easy as undoing a loose single overhand knot on your shoes... and that's after a night of hanging.

So I'm asking: Is the Xbend is easier to undo/untie than a SBH with the loop/"pull tab" added to the CL/eye?

Based on folks saying it's about half as hard to undo/untie as the regular SBH, I would guess, no.

u.w.

[cmoulder]

I debated starting a new thread but since it is established that the X-Bend is a viable option I thought I would see if any of you indoor hangers are interested in trying this? (Maybe put some cushions on the floor!) I'm only half-jokingly calling it the Death Hitch, which I hope is a temporary name.

I've hung on it only for a nap but it was fine. I've strung up Zing-it tarp ridge lines (with loop variation) that were banjo-string tight with no slippage. It works Amsteel-on-Amsteel. I have not been able to capsize it or suck the CL thru the loop with any material.

[chapinb]

Can you post a picture of that?

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Cant do a decent photo has my basement is pretty dark. But it's the same as warbonnetguy did with the Beckett. Just make sure to snug down the xbend or beckett first then do the stopper knot

[chapinb]

Tried the death hitch, amsteel to amsteel. Slipped pretty easy, maybe easier then just a beckett. Didn't try with webbing. Holds with a stopper knot but needed a good hard tug to get undone.
Love the new thoughts and ideas in recent time for no hardware suspensions.