Z liner

[karbo]

Thinking of ordering the z liner for my TX 270, wondering what your thoughts are on the z liner.

[84Hanger]

Thinking of ordering the z liner for my TX 270, wondering what your thoughts are on the z liner.

Hello, I have the Z-Liner its nice keeps me warmer when wet then down would. I would not pay full price, got my on sale. I can get down to 40 digresses maybe high 30’s. People get lower than that. I’m saving for a down under quilt maybe 10 digresses. Here is a link to down under quilts for clarks. https://www.locolibregear.com/gear.h...=0&sort=normal

[Rouskof]

Very badly ingeneered insulation imo: the uq is saggy and leaves a huge gap between you and the uq. Only the color is nice if they still make them in forest green.
I sent mine back to Clark for a partial refund and got the Locolibre one, which is proper insulation, although if I were you, I would ask George to make a regular secondary suspension on it instead of his gathered end system.

[mooseprime]

Very badly ingeneered insulation imo: the uq is saggy and leaves a huge gap between you and the uq. Only the color is nice if they still make them in forest green.
I sent mine back to Clark for a partial refund and got the Locolibre one, which is proper insulation, although if I were you, I would ask George to make a regular secondary suspension on it instead of his gathered end system.

I'm considering the LLG UQ for my Clark and was wondering if you could expand on this. What would be the benefit/drawback to requesting this change?
Thanks.

BTW, I have the Z liner, and it works pretty good unless you want to go lower than about 35F.

[georgecarr]

I'm considering the LLG UQ for my Clark and was wondering if you could expand on this. What would be the benefit/drawback to requesting this change?

There would be no benefit. We designed the suspension specifically for the clark hammock. Rouskof had asked us to come up with a draft collar/secondary suspension because he was trying to make it work on his vertex. We never made that design, and I have no plans on doing so.

[mooseprime]

Good to know and thank you George!

[mooseprime]

New Order submitted

Thanks again George! Looking forward to hanging in temps ~15°F... or lower!

[Rouskof]

I'm considering the LLG UQ for my Clark and was wondering if you could expand on this. What would be the benefit/drawback to requesting this change?
Thanks.

BTW, I have the Z liner, and it works pretty good unless you want to go lower than about 35F.

For me it is more comfy, because it wraps my shoulders and feet better instead of being gathered at the ends, but this mod might not improve the uq for you, depending on your size and hammock. You'll see. It's not hard to modify yourself if needed anyway.
George's system is simpler to use: you just clip the carabiners at both ends and that's it. So if your are good like that, it is perfect!

[mooseprime]

That makes sense. I am *mostly* concerned about my feet. I often utilize the storage pockets on the Clark which helps around the torso, but I was looking to improve my comfort factor when the temps/wind dip lower than what the Z liner can handle. Frozen butt is one thing, but cold feet =no sleep!

[jaxnhowl]

Mine seems to seal fairly well up against the bottom of my NX270 hammock when I'm in it but also better at the ends and seams. I can put a down rectangular sleeping bag I have in between for an extra layer to lower my temp comfort level a good bit without spending more money for now.