Standard Tarp vs. Palace Tarp

[wvumountaineer52]

In debating between hammockgear standard tarp with doors or palace tarp. Anyone have any feedback on either of the two. The weight difference is so minuscule but I don’t want the tarp to be “too much”. This would be my tarp for all four seasons from rain, sun, snow and wind.

[cmoulder]

I have both and I suppose it depends on how often you get out in really nasty weather. It goes without saying that the Palace offers more coverage in such conditions, and in warmer weather the Palace still works like a big hex if you tie the doors back and/or prop up the corners in porch mode.

A couple of nights ago I experienced 23°F temp and a pretty good breeze (est 15mph ?) for a few hours and am sure that the Palace kept things warmer than the lesser tarp, although there was still some air circulating inside, which is going to happen with anything that isn't absolutely and completely pinned down tight to the ground and buttoned up.

[cmoulder]

Here's a photo of the Standard with doors... coverage ain't too shabby, either. Just depends on how much coverage you personally prefer, and/or how thrifty/spendy you want to get with your grams! I'm a shameless, unrepentant gram weenie and take every opportunity to reduce pack weight and volume, so there's that.

[wvumountaineer52]

I’m digging that palace tarp! I recently bought a 12 ft standard tarp with doors and added a continuous ridge line, tadpole timeouts, and pole mods... buuuut I think I wanna sell it and get a palace tarp. I’ve only used my current tarp a few nights. IMG_0696.jpg


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[gbolt]

If it’s a four season tarp that you need, then the Palace is the way to go. It work for my entire Thru Hike, through all seasons.

[wvumountaineer52]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on a 12 vs 11 ft ridge-line for an 11 ft Chameleon hammock? Is the extra length worth the weight & cost? Is an 11 ft tarp easier / more convenient to set up. Any weather related issues with either length?


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[TrailSlug]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on a 12 vs 11 ft ridge-line for an 11 ft Chameleon hammock? Is the extra length worth the weight & cost? Is an 11 ft tarp easier / more convenient to set up. Any weather related issues with either length?

An 11 ft tarp should work fine so really it's up to you on if you want a bit more coverage for a few more grams. I always buy 12 ft tarps but I'm using them with my Warbonnet Ridgerunner which needs the extra foot to close the doors.

[gbolt]

I went 11 foot for a ten foot WB and never felt like the space was too tight. I did have a couple of tight hangs were the 11 ft Tarp was almost too close to the trees and a 12 foot would not have worked. However, I probably would not have selected those specific trees to begin with. One gets use to their hang style and gear to where it becomes second nature to select workable trees. Therefore, I would go 12 ft with 11 foot Chameleon.

[Otter1]

I had an 11' Standard w/doors and sold it because the "what if" happened one trip - and I see it (or similar) happening again. A sudden strong storm blew through and my UQ got a little damp. The pitch was MY fault, not the tarp's. But unless I would have hung my hammock almost on the ground, that crazy wind still would've made me unhappy. Not to mention I appreciate not having the tarp "as low as possible" to the hammock.

My 12' Palace (camo .... ohhhhhh Baby!) w/ mesh sleeve is amazing. You'll be fine w/an 11 footer though, so pick one

[SilvrSurfr]

I bought a standard with doors but found the coverage inadequate. It just wasn't wide enough. Traded it in for a Winter Palace and haven't gotten wet since!