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    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    South Texas
    Hammock
    11 foot gathered hexon1.7
    Tarp
    11 ft winter dutch
    Insulation
    TQ and UQ
    Suspension
    Spider Straps 1.5
    Posts
    591

    Need Pattern, Modification, and Fabric Suggestion for long distance DIY

    I need to evaluate all of my gear, and decide if it's worth the cost to upgrade.


    Current Bag
    Backcountry Bed 600 Long (weights 2 pounds and 11 ounces)
    Modifying into a single TQ, cannibalizing extra down for the other DIY projects
    Reference: HF thread Backcountry Bed modification

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    Down
    Cannibalized Down - X ounces Dri Down 600fp (available for MYOG filling)
    Reference: Goose Down 900fp, zero feathers from Amazon $65 per pound
    Beanie - 0.5 ounces
    Jacket - 4.0 ounces
    Pillow/Stuffsack - 0.5 ounces
    Balaclava - 1.5 ounces
    Mittens -
    Booties -
    Top Quilt -
    Under Quilt -
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    Vapor Barrier
    Tyvek for ground lay and cold protection
    Can I improve upon this design? Would DIY have a cost savings or weight advantage?
    bivyback.jpg
    Reference: Tyvek Bag Cover - 135g - $11 from AliExpress
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    Top Quilt:
    Karo style quilt, starting with 4.5 ounces of down fill
    Here is my spreadsheet for this top quilt. I'm unsure of the height, as I keep going back and forth between 70 and 78 inches for my 5' 6" frame.
    Reference: DIY Top Quilt Calculator Spreadsheet
    Reference: Costco Down Throw 2 for $50
    Reference: HF Thread Modifying-a-Karo-baffled-quilt-on-the-trail
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    Underquilt:
    Karo style underquilt starting with 6 ounces of down fill
    Plan to stuff to 16 ounce fill when needed
    Is it too much a stretch to list the width as 62 when there's 63 or 64 workable inches in the wide?
    Reference: Sleeping Pad R Values (is an UQ needed)
    Reference: Underquilt Chart Matrix
    Reference: Differential Cut UQ Calculator Spreadsheet
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    Beanie:
    beanie.jpg
    Reference: Blackrock Beanie Down Ultralight
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    Balaclava:
    Slight modification to this pattern to have it extend further down in the front and back.
    Unsure the fill amount needed - 1 or 2 ounces?
    What is the best fabric to use for something like this currently?
    Would I want to have one membrane layer and one mountain layer like an underquilt?
    balaclava.jpg
    Reference: http://rob-thegreatoutdoors.blogspot...balaclava.html
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    Down Jacket:
    I've always enjoyed how shug fastens his down jacket around the foot of his hammock. I've always wanted to have removable down sleeves on my jacket. I remember the sleeves being held by shock cordage in the back, but I'm blanking on who did the modification (it's been tough to find).
    jacket.png
    Reference: Whitney Down Jacket Plans at Thru-Hiker
    Reference: 8.5 ounce down hooded jacket Argon with 5 ounce fill at BPL
    Reference: Patagonia article discussing the amount of fill in each of their jackets
    Alternative: I own an authentic alpaca wool jacket. Together with a pair of alpaca wool socks, they weigh 420 grams (assuming the jacket is 350 grams of that). ThruHiker estimates the down jacket to weigh 8 or 9 ounces.
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    Stuff Sack Pillow:
    A hybrid between a down pillow and a stuff sack.
    Fill with clothes to create pillow size desired.
    Down pocket sewed into stuff sack for pillow "face"
    Pillow Stuff Sack.jpg
    stuff sack pillow.jpg
    Reference: HG Pillow (too heavy and not multi-use)
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    Tarp:
    Lightweight fabric - 5 yards - 8.33 square yards

    0.51 Dyneema Composite Fiber weighs 4.25 ounces x 32 dollars = 160 dollars. (0.15)
    0.74 Mountain 7D weighs 6.16 ounces x 16 dollars = 80 dollars (0.20)
    0.75 Membrane 10 Ripstop weighs 6.25 ounces x 11 dollars = 55 dollars (0.29)
    1.10 Silnylon weighs 9.16 ounces x 6 dollars = 30 dollars. (0.36)

    These numbers show that 0.75 membrane and 1.10 Silnylon are the frontrunners for a budget tarp. Comparing Silnylong to Membrane 10, we see a 1.75 ounce drop for 25 dollars. The 1.25 ounce drop when moving to Cuben Fiber for an additional 100 dollars would be one of the very last upgrades that I perform (since there's not much savings for a good deal of money)..
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    Grizz Beaks:
    Two versions to consider. Long connected or individual detached. The GrizzBeak2 aka SonOfBeak might work as a proper rain kilt for me. The rain kilt is 72cm by 177cm. Son of Beak measures 132cm by 132cm by 30cm.
    GrizzBeak.jpg
    grizzbeaky2.jpg
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    Hammock:
    Lightweight single layer hammock - 11 foot gathered end
    3.5 yards of fabric = 6.3 square yards

    MTN 0.74 weighs 4.66 ounces x 16 = 56 dollars (0.38)
    Membrane SilPoly weighs 5.86 ounces x 7.25 = 25.38 dollars (0.67)
    1.0oz DiamondD ripstop weighs 6.3 ounces x 6 = 21 dollars (0.76)
    Hexon 1.0 weighs 6.3 ounces x 6.75 = 23.63 dollars (0.67)
    1.1oz Ripstop weighs 6.93 ounces x 4.40 = 15.40 dollars (0.94)
    1.1oz poly ripstop camo weighs 6.93 ounces x 6.25 = 22 dollars (0.66)
    1.6oz Polyester Ripstop Camo weighs 10.08 ounces x 6 = 21 dollars (0.47)
    1.9oz Ripstop weighs 12 ounces x 4 = 13 dollars (0.64)
    hammock.jpg
    Reference: HG Hexon 1.0 - $30 weighs 217 grams
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    Suspension:
    Straps (purchased) - considering 8 foot 1.5 g/ounce spider (maybe longer)
    Evo Loops to connect hammock to straps
    Reference: Expensive splicing tool 1.6 ounce $22
    Reference: Cheap splicing tool 0.75 ounces $8
    Reference: Dutch 1.5 Spider
    Reference: How to make Evo Loops Youtube Video
    Reference: Hammock Suspension with Beckett Hitch Youtube Video
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    Rain Pants or Kilt
    Very simple DIY - unsure best fabric or if it's worth the time
    kilt.png
    Reference :Rain Kilt from AliExpress - 8 dollars - 65 grams - 72cm x 177cm
    rain pants.png
    Reference :Rain Pants from AliExpress- 14 dollars - gear used by triple crown hiker
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    Pack:
    Current Packs:
    Kelty pk50 (35L + 15L) - weighs 3 pounds 2 ounces
    REI Flash 30L - weighs 480 grams
    Ribz Front Pack

    backpack.jpg
    Reference :Most DIY packs follow this same basic pattern from DIYGearSupply
    UL50.jpg
    Reference :UL50 - 1 pound 6 ounces @ 80 dollars from MyTrailCo
    joeypack.jpg
    Reference :Joey Pack - 11.8 ounces @ 230 dollars from PalantePacks
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    Is there any other MYOG that you would suggest for a Thru Hike of either the AT or the PCT?
    Last edited by Trambo; 01-12-2019 at 12:50.

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