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    Trees to far apart...

    If a rope line is between two trees can the hammock be hung from the line away from the tree.
    Sorry probably already been covered but thanks all for any guidance.

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    The tension in the rope and strain on the trees increases drastically as the sag in the rope decreases. How high do you plan to tie to the tree. Don't increase the leveage too much.
    Better to prop the rope span up near the hammock.
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    Is the rope line between two trees already there and not adjustable?
    Or are you putting in your own line, and will be able to adjust height and tension?
    As noted in above post—try to have a 30* angle of hang. And use rope strong enough to give a safety buffer of between 5 to 1 or 10 to 1
    Also use one inch or more width tree straps around trees
    You can connect hammock directly to rope span by placing a marlin spike hitch in rope at both hammock attachment points Then you can connect to rope on treeward side of marlin spike hitch Connection could be carabiners, continuous loops larks headed onto span rope, or soft shackles larks headed onto rope span
    If the rope span is already installed by someone else, then your hang angle could be too flat or wrong height or rope might not be strong enough to give a safety buffer
    And if you are making your own span or ridgeline, some here on Hammock Forums have attached to SLS single line suspension using a combination of splicing and knots—the knots are used to protect ridgeline at point of bury exit

    Short answer to your question
    Yes, maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    Is the rope line between two trees already there and not adjustable?
    Or are you putting in your own line, and will be able to adjust height and tension?
    As noted in above post—try to have a 30* angle of hang. And use rope strong enough to give a safety buffer of between 5 to 1 or 10 to 1
    Also use one inch or more width tree straps around trees
    You can connect hammock directly to rope span by placing a marlin spike hitch in rope at both hammock attachment points Then you can connect to rope on treeward side of marlin spike hitch Connection could be carabiners, continuous loops larks headed onto span rope, or soft shackles larks headed onto rope span
    If the rope span is already installed by someone else, then your hang angle could be too flat or wrong height or rope might not be strong enough to give a safety buffer
    And if you are making your own span or ridgeline, some here on Hammock Forums have attached to SLS single line suspension using a combination of splicing and knots—the knots are used to protect ridgeline at point of bury exit

    Short answer to your question
    Yes, maybe

    ... Sometimes difficult to find trees the preferred distance apart.
    I try to get the Ridgeline to the recommended tension by adjusting the whoopie slings.
    Then try to get a nice angle on the hammock for a comfortable position.
    Sometimes it ends up hung to low, sometimes cant get the hammock angle right or the 30° suspension angle.
    All this while working within the confines of keeping the ridgeline tension correct (so not to stretch the whoopie slings [so I hear] ).
    Tree distance seems to dictate how things will play out. Too far makes it challenging & too close also restricts customization.
    I figured if a line could be put between the trees to hang each end of the hammock on, the trees being too far would no longer be a problem.

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    Trees to far apart...

    When trees are far apart, in order to have a 30* angle of hang—you have to attach higher up the tree,sometimes higher than you can comfortably reach. What most of us do (including me) is attach at same height we always hang and this will usually give either a flat angle of hang or allow hammock to brush the ground when you get in hammock. Flat hang angles greatly add great stresses to suspension and trees. Additional weights added to each end are not added—say 20 pounds more but instead can be in multiples of your body weight. This risks busting suspension or worse—pulling tree onto your head
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    If your suspension line looks like the above line
    Oops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    When trees are far apart, in order to have a 30* angle of hang—you have to attach higher up the tree,sometimes higher than you can comfortably reach. What most of us do (including me) is attach at same height we always hang and this will usually give either a flat angle of hang or allow hammock to brush the ground when you get in hammock. Flat hang angles greatly add great stresses to suspension and trees. Additional weights added to each end are not added—say 20 pounds more but instead can be in multiples of your body weight. This risks busting suspension or worse—pulling tree onto your head
    —————————————————
    If your suspension line looks like the above line
    Oops!
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    Sounds like you are thinking that a rope/line between the two trees would like like the ridge line top bar on a Tato or pipe stand. The trees would give the line height and the compression force, instead of "pushing" against the top bar, would be pulling against the trees. It's a good idea except for a little thing called gravity.

    In short - it doesn't work that way. Usually, the further apart the trees, the higher up you need to attach your suspension. For some of us who are not so close to six foot tall, that means we have to look for closer trees.

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    Check Derek's Hang Calculator for minimizing forces and maximizing most efficient setup.

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    There is a photo on here of a guy hanging between two trees that are about 30 or 40 feet apart. If your trees are tall you can just go higher. The other good option is hanging on one tree and using a post or stand for the other tie off point. There are several threads about hanging from one tree.


    This is not the one I was originally looking for, but this thread shows a 55’ hang (near the bottom of the page)
    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...ghlight=widest
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