Dutch Biners with Spider Daisy Chain Webbing

[ComfyCocoon]

I am thinking of changing my suspension for winter to the spider daisy chain and was wondering if anyone is using titanium dutch biners to connect directly to the daisy chain from a continuous loop on the gathered end of the hammock. I noticed in Dutch's video on the biners he uses a CL larks headed to a tree hugger instead of connecting the biner directly to the strap. I suspect this is due to the small basket size of the biner compared to a typical climbing carabiner. I was also looking at the Mantis to connect them, but with freezing cold hands and gloves on I would prefer the least amount of fiddle. Anyways, any thoughts on connecting the dutch biners directly to the spider daisy chain?

[Jackethanger]

I just bought Dutchware spider daisy and mantises a couple of weeks ago. I’m a fan of daisy chain except for the weight, but the spider daisy is so light, it’s a game changer. The ease of hanging and adjustment and ease of setting a bias toward feet high (count loops) are awesome and with spider daisy, the increased weight over other suspension options is almost negligible. I did buy the mantis version that is spliced onto a continuous loop. I just snatched out the old loos from my Half-Zipped and slid these right in. I haven’t had it outside with gloved hands, but I’ve played with it a good bit and I have no concern with me being able to push the mantis into a loop and hook the other side of the continuous loop on the open hook in any conditions. Of course the real test is the woods. I’ll update when I know, but I anticipate no issues.


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[LTMillar]

I've used the spider chain with Mantis with driving gloves on. I don't recall any problems there.
No idea about heavy winter gloves with the same but I have enough issues with the dutch biners with anything else on or in my hands to not want to try that combination personally.

[TrailSlug]

This is why I like the strap system. Gloves or no gloves it's easy to adjust.

[ComfyCocoon]

I just bought Dutchware spider daisy and mantises a couple of weeks ago. I’m a fan of daisy chain except for the weight, but the spider daisy is so light, it’s a game changer. The ease of hanging and adjustment and ease of setting a bias toward feet high (count loops) are awesome and with spider daisy, the increased weight over other suspension options is almost negligible. I did buy the mantis version that is spliced onto a continuous loop. I just snatched out the old loos from my Half-Zipped and slid these right in. I haven’t had it outside with gloved hands, but I’ve played with it a good bit and I have no concern with me being able to push the mantis into a loop and hook the other side of the continuous loop on the open hook in any conditions. Of course the real test is the woods. I’ll update when I know, but I anticipate no issues

I've used the spider chain with Mantis with driving gloves on. I don't recall any problems there.
No idea about heavy winter gloves with the same but I have enough issues with the dutch biners with anything else on or in my hands to not want to try that combination personally.

Thanks for the feedback on the Mantis! The more I think about it the more I am thinking that I should just get the Mantis and try them out on a few snowy sub 20° F nights. If they don't work out I can always just switch to climbing carabiners. Then one of my kids can use the Mantis for a good easy 3 season suspension. I guess that is the power Dutch has, he can make you come up with a reason to buy everything he sells

This is why I like the strap system. Gloves or no gloves it's easy to adjust.

I agree. I love whoopie slings, but I don't love them when my hands are cold or when I am wearing gloves.

[Jackethanger]

Great. Let us know how it goes and I’ll do the same.


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