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    I will pass on my Tarp Tutorials......https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...r4JzQgQ_iyB2RU
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    I love knots!

    So when I first started, I wanted to go old school. I used prusiks on the CRL, with Zing It, they slipped a bit, but could live with it. Then I did the buntline/ trucker hitch on the ends, again, not bad overall, but a bit of a hassle in general. The whole goal of this was I wanted to not be dependent on gadgets.

    But I lusted for more, Dutch Bling caught my eye. Such a elegant solution! So now I use Dutch on the top and Marlinspike on the stakes. Love this setup!

    But I always have the peace of mind if I lose something then I know how to do the knots... it's a journey that's part of the fun of this whole thing.


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    Yes, dyneema-on-dyneema will slip, at least until it wears a bit and develops more grip.

    However, if you make some little loops for Prusiks using a woven polyester cord, these will have enough 'bite' to hold.
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    Thanks for the suggestions!
    Now I definitely have a few options to try.
    I think I'll try to skip the continuous ridgeline on my next trip, change out the amsteel and tie each end of the tarp to a tree with a truckers hitch. Seems like a nice and simple setup :P

    If I get wet again I'll spend a few bucks and go for the dutchware stuff - it seems like a bullet proof option.


    Thanks!

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    Knot confused at all. The taut line is actually the midshipmens according to Ashley.
    Read "better version".

    https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans/index.php

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    Most Dyneema lines are too slippery for Prussics or a Midshipman's hitch so your best bet is tying stakes into Marlinspike hitches or a Truckers's hitch. The exception is Lawson's new Statline http://lawsonequipment.com/Cordage/S...5mm-p1114.html ; It takes a midshipman's hitch without slipping.

    Dutch bling is a no knots, no hassle solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obiecamper View Post
    Knot confused at all. The taut line is actually the midshipmens according to Ashley.
    Read "better version".

    https://www.animatedknots.com/midshipmans/index.php
    It depends on who you talk to. I'm in search & rescue, and the Taut Line I was taught does NOT include the awning hitch, but the Midshipmen's version does. I prefer the Midshipmen's.
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    If you want the grip of a standard Prusik without the difficulty unlocking, you might consider the Bachmann, Klemheist, any asymmetrical Prusik (i.e. Distal or Schwabisch hitch), or even the Valdotain Tresse if you prefer a non-looped strand. There are an amazing number of knots out there.

    I also feel the allure of hardware, but I keep reminding myself that knowledge and skill is more important than tools.
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    I would suggest Dutch Tarp Flyz or Stingerz for the ridgeline with Zingit and then run Lawson Glowire on your tie outs with either the Lawson Bar Tensioners or use tautline hitches there. They hold beautiful with Glowire and it's reflective.

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    For a long time I used 3mm Marlow Excel Pro for my ridge line, and great stuff it is too, 16 plait polyester, no stretch, takes knots well, can be gripped by 2mm arborist throw line for easy quick release taut hitches. The only down side was the bulk of 10m of 3mm line. Friends use the 2mm throw line (also 16 plait polyester) with good results. This year I bought some Lash-it and some Zing-it and made a ridge with a tiny Dutchware hook, but I am far from happy with attaching my tarp to this line, or the options available for tensioning the ridge line. It really does seem that in order to have any semblance of ease I will need to have more hardware, which is something I have tried to avoid. My buddy who does jungle work and spends a lot of time in his hammock has worked through all the hardware options and has returned to knots as faster and easier in wet and gritty conditions. He uses the 16 plait throw line for a ridge, got him some from Tree to Tree Trail Gear (Spectra no tangle guy line) which is a little thicker than the stuff we have been using for guys.

    Tension the ridge with a trucker style hitch, with or without hardware (hardware = less friction, less wear, more to carry).

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