OK. I didn't need much more motivation, but this seals the deal. I'll be getting a 12', 3-pole WH in the near future.Originally Posted by morgan1840
One more thing...am I OK leaving the side pullouts off to save $$? With the poles, I don't think I will ever use them. This will be a winter-only tarp when pulking, so weight/bulk of poles is no issue.
I never use the pull-outs any more. Well, actually I might if/when I want to hold the doors back on one end only for some reason. But I probably wouldn't really miss them. Look at them as potential leeks.
I think tarps look nicer without panel pulls IMHO. And if you go lightweight and leave the poles at home, if you get the cat cuts, it will still be plenty tight without them, so flapping won’t be an issue.
My last 3 pole 12 footer was made without the pullouts. I do prefer the internal poles over the external.
You're goin to love it. Enjoy
I added one side pull out per side of my tarps... They get used so rarely, I have to think I could have skipped it. I added them specifically for use when I can't use the pole, which is when using a single line suspension. The pole just flattens the tarp out too much with the SLS. I figured a side pullout would help in this situation. Time will tell.
I know you have other tarps, so for this new WH, where you will likely use the pole regularly, skip the side pull outs.
Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
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How do you guys find the extra wide tarps for use in summer? I like to have a bit of a view and breeze under the tarp, so is this still possible with the wider fabric (is it just a matter of setting it up higher)? I'm debating between the wide version and standard...
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I prefer the XL or xtra wide for winter and rain. With the internal mod and the awesome porch mode that it allows on one or both sides, ventilation is not an issue.
I took my SLD winter haven out last weekend. The 3 pole kit is amazing, but how do you know how tight to stake it out? This goes for any internal pole setup.
Do you go for a wider, less tension setup? Or crank it tight with stakes closer to center for more of a parabola shape? Or just whatever feels right?
The wife and I use the end pole mods on our UGQ Hanger 12 tarps and don't feel a need for a third center pole. We use a Grizz Beak when needed for doors. When we upgrade to a dedicated four season tarp it will be winter havens and three poles.
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I like big tarps. That could be because my introduction was a Hennessy Expedition with that tiny Asymmetrical tarp - enough to keep the hammock dry but that was about it. For general camping I go with 12 ft (and 13 for the Ridge Runner) But during the summer - if I'm mostly sure it is not going to rain - and definitely not going to "storm". I use Dutch's asymmetrical tape because there is so much flexibility in rigging it. I am completely confident it will keep the hammock dry. I like bigger tarps to keep some area around the hammock dry. Although people tend to think of a tarp in terms of rain, two other considerations are 1) Birds in the sky 2) Big moon at night shining right in the eyes. And for some folk, there's a privacy factor.
Though we are taught to watch for overhead dead branches, in winter perfectly healthy trees can have branches loaded with snow. Just say'n.
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