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Using my new suspension 3rd night out. Is this really the Marlin, or have I just lucked out on it holding me? I definitely move around sleeping. But would rest more soundly, if I were more confident in my hitch. I’m thinking “Did I really hang on the knot, not the toggle? Is this my lucky new invention? Should I hang lower in case it fails?”
Looks like you not on the knot but resting more on the toggle.
Seems to be a strong toggle from the looks but get the amsteel on the knot and sleep soundly.
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It's hard to trace the way it runs from the pic, but that looks... upsidedown maybe? Just not quite right. Maybe I'm seeing things. Dunno.
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Looks just right!
Maybe cinch the MSH a little tighter before loading it, but even as-is it should hold.
The nice thing about a Ti toggle, however, is that it offers some margin for error, certainly more than Al or a stick, in which case you really gotta get it right.
Last edited by cmoulder; 07-23-2018 at 10:28.
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What Shug said...
If you thread the toggle through the fixed eye from the opposite side, the eye will sit at the point on the MSH where it crosses itself over the top of the strap. Your eye will then sit on the knot, rather than the toggle.
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It is VERY important to follow the exact sequence in Shug's video! I have been using this toggle for several years, then one trip I first experienced difficulty with getting the whoopie "on the knot, not on the toggle". I thought I finally had it and slept in the hammock for two nights. When it came time to pack up, the toggles were really hard to twist out of the knot. What the heck, I thought. Then when I tried to pull the strap to release the knot, I had to fight it hard. This had never happened before. My toggles are slick and after the toggles are easily removed, the knot falls apart with just a slight tug. I finally figured out the problem. The crucial step to follow is: after forming the first loop, flip it up TOWARDS the tree, reach through the loop and grab the strap coming from the tree, definitely NOT the one going towards the hammock. The temptation is to form the loop and then simply reach through and grab the strap portion that goes to the hammock. Both methods form a slip knot, but the wrong one puts all the weight of the hammock and person directly into tightening the knot, causing the problems and making it difficult or impossible to put the whoopie on the knot and not on the toggle. Doing it wrong is also very hard on the tree strap. I hope this helps and is understandable.
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That does help, thanks! I didn’t know that!Originally Posted by waddy
I think it would be helpful to have someone take a few CLOSE pictures of all the possible WRONG ways to do it as well. That way people new to the technique can better understand. Since the wrong ways look so similar to the correct way to a layman, it helps to know what to avoid, not just what to do. “On the knot, not on the toggle” is not crystal clear enough IMHO. I would do it, but I’d rather a more experienced feller do the pics here.
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