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    Best knot to tie a strap around a tree?

    Quote Originally Posted by wa4chq View Post
    One knot not mentioned is the "what knot".

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    Ashley Book Of Knots
    ABOK
    What Knot
    ABOK # 1208
    ABOK # 1406 and # 1407 and # 1408
    ABOK # 2579

    I’m having fun on this one, “what knot”; be
    careful out there. Hammock campers beware!

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    referring to the "what knot" I mentioned....I'd say at least 50% of the slip renters at the marina where I work make their boats off with a "what knot".

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    As long as it works for them—-that’s great
    I’m not a knot expert, I’m a hammock knot hobbyist. I had to look up “what knot” in ABOK,
    I’d seen it before, but never tied it or the trick variants of this knot. Ashley notes there are some secure variants and some not so secure?
    I’m left handed and one time I was trying to follow and tie a knot in Geoffrey Budworths Encyclopedia of Knots. The knot shown, in step by step color photographs, was right handed.
    I could not figure it out backwards.
    So I held it up to a mirror to tie it——-
    When I lost my balance, I barely escaped with my life—-shards of glass were everywhere.

    And that’s true....to the best of my recollection!

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    Phantom Grappler....I have Ashleys but it's put away in storage. Honestly, I didn't know he had one named that in his book.....the "what knot" I mention is a knot that isn't a knot.....it's what you get when someone who doesn't know any knots ties something.....it usually doesn't untie well....
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    Ashley described “what knot” , shaped like a granny knot except one end exits at top and other end exits at bottom of knot.
    Then he showed a variation with both ends twisted or pulled so that while still being like a granny knot—with both loose ends pulled toward the bottom or one side.
    He went on to show a trick version of “what knot” that allowed the knot to travel along the ropes as if by magic.
    Then he made a minor change and the knot seized or locked up.
    All this is beyond my ability to comprehend (without long time studying) I ain’t gonna do that
    Though it’s still fun to notice.
    I don’t think it’s a reliable knot for hammock campers because some versions are not secure or stable, and other versions with only minor changes hold better. Too easy for me to mess up and use one knot when I should have used it’s almost twin.
    And “what knot” the turn of a phrase.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wa4chq View Post
    I have Ashleys but it's put away in storage.
    There is a link to an online PDF version somewhere around these parts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GadgetUK437 View Post
    There is a link to an online PDF version somewhere around these parts.


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    tnx GadgetUK437...I'll check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyRandy View Post
    So let’s say you have a strap with out a loop on either end. What would kind of knot would be best to use to wrap it around the tree for a hammock suspension? I’m guessing most of you would suggest tying a bowline to make a loop and thread it through as if it were a typical tree strap. I’m wondering about alternative solutions. What would be a good knot to use instead that would be safe, but easy to untie after a night of sleeping on it?
    Why not a running bowline?
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    Running bowline, and if you are gonna tie a loop and run end through loop. An alpine butterfly loop will hold too and it resists jamming.
    Lots of great ways to meet suspension challenges, and they most all work great.
    You can go to a big hammock hang and see five dozen hammocks. And it’s rare to see multiple hammocks and tarps rigged in exactly the same way. It’s one of those things, you get to choose your own style and you are free to change just for fun.

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