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    Speeding things up...?

    Hello all,

    I've been hammocking for about three years now. I love it. My only problem is the "fiddle factor," and it's not so much a problem as an annoyance I'd like to solve.

    I currently have an ENO with a separate bug net. Of course, there's a tarp, too. I'm trying to figure out a way to streamline the set up. Now, I have one rope for the tarp (a continuous ridgeline), one for the bug net, and a daisy chain for the suspension. It all works...but there has gotta be an easier way than I'm doing it.

    I've seen some of the Dutch bling, and it looks great. I'm not all that concerned about super lightweight options (I'm canoeing in northern MN, so 97% of the time the weight is in the bottom of a canoe). I just want an easier way to get set up.

    I apologize if there are already threads on this topic...If so, I'd be happy to read through old ones.

    Thanks in advance!


    Carmike

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    I started with ENO hammock and tarp. They did require a lot of adjustments to get just right. Hammock and tarp are so small there is no room for error. Switching to longer hammock and better tarp have made set-up easier and faster.

    After three years perhaps you should consider upgrading your gear.

    Good luck
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    Senior Member sidneyhornblower's Avatar
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    Simplify the bugnet with a Fronkey style that stays on the hammock all the time, no separate line.

    Simplify the suspension on the hammock by going to straps and cinch buckles or straps and a Becket hitch or J-bend knot.

    Continuous ridge line for the tarp is already pretty simple since it's one piece.

    Cheers.
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    Go with an integrated bug net with strap suspension and to speed things up even more go for a bridge hammock where the under quilt clips on to the four corners and your done in addition the quilts fit tighter you stay warmer.

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    Do you have a ridgeline on your hammock? If not you could add one to your setup and possibly leave the bugnet attached to the hammock.

    With the daisy chain suspension systems Dutch has the mantis that could speed up time setting up your hammock and maybe using carabiners to go around the tree ends.

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    Yup a ridgeline and integrated bug net will greatly speed up setup. I also recently switched over to cinch buckles and like it much better than the other methods I have used. They make it super easy to adjust the hang.

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    Being relatively new, but only having 1 suspension for the hammock/bugnet (i.e., an integrated bug net) with beetle buckles, and then a continuous ridgeline with a stingerz from Dutch is quite quick to depoly. Another thing to consider is quicker packing up and snake skins drastically cut the time required to put your tarp away

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    Something I did for long distance hiking to eliminate fiddle-factor was to leave my underquilt attached to my hammock when I stuffed it down into my pack liner inside my pack. All I had to do was set up my suspension which I kept in a separate bag, then clip the continuous loop on and pull out my hammock and clip the other end.

    Dutch-biners made attachment quick and easy from suspension to hammock, and I use Dutch-clips for my tree straps. Whoopies and toggles are my preferred method for adjustments but cinch-buckles are pretty hassle free.

    For tarp I use zing-it with dutch-hooks on the tree side and Dutch-fleaz on the tarp side. But if your using a continuous ridge line I would check out the Dutch-flyz or Dutch-wasp


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    Snakeskins will help also if no one mentioned it yet

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    I have a Dream hammock darien and an 11 ft hex tarp and have the same problem you have. Not that it is too difficult to set up, but I want to speed up the process by which the system is up. It really depends on the suspension system that you are using (I have a whoopie sling) I have attached my tarp via 2 prusik knots to my whoopie sling. I am also in the process of securing a pair of Dutchware titanium clips to speed up the process of attaching the tree huggers and suspension, some hookworms to speed up the tent stake deployment. It will also make keeping everything much easier. Tarp and hammock goes together in the same double ended stuff sack.

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