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    New Member whoopie's Avatar
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    Hello from Europe

    This is probably my first post but had already 11 hammock trips past three years.
    So I am not new to the hammock experience :-)

    The very first hangs happened with a foam pad and 3 season bag , aarggghh
    ... and later in combination with a incubator 20.

    We don't have extreme winters in my country but even the incubator did not help me very well.
    In fact , I am done with all those adjustments to get the "banana" shaped quilt in the right manner , it's always different . Sometimes the quilt gets away under my blackbird or even aside the hammock. Maybe I am doing it wrong sometimes but I guess the quilt not really matches with the diagonal position in the blackbird XLC. I am also 1.85 m and the incubator could be longer.


    Now it's worth upgrading my gear.

    I guess insulation can't be good enough and maybe it's worth buying a winter or scandinavian wooki.

    My idea here is to change the topquilt to the expected weather and use the wooki all year round or would it be too hot ?
    Would I buy a winter or scandinavian wooki ???
    Problems with condensation ?

    BTW , love my blackbird XLC . Never went so much to the outdoors .

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    If you want to stay warm in a hammock underquilt, I'd advise that you look no further than the Loco Libre Gear Sub-Zero line...

    https://www.locolibregear.com/gear.h...=0&sort=normal

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    New Member whoopie's Avatar
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    Sorry but I am not in the woods to make attraction, and as said before not sure about those "banana" quilts.
    Also would like to get some advice , no ads please !

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    Maybe you have your Incubator too tight or ends cinched to tightly.
    I think the Wooki is the perfect UQ for the XLC. I stays put!
    You can vent UQs.
    Maybe a 20 Wooki would suit you.
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    Hi Shug , nice to hear you !
    Admire your youtube channel , lot's of good video's.

    The 20 incubator was not warm enough for me , maybe because of the fabrics.
    The fabric seems to be very thin not very wind proof. Also too short in standard size.
    The new pertax fabric could be it but again the same shape as the incubator and difficulties to get it tight without too much pressure.

    Would go for the winter wooki as the minimum , just to be sure.
    Gonna check the links for sure, thanks

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    Perhaps a under quilt protector too...hard to keep all that snuggly warmth in a UQ if there a breeze blowing,
    Whether your beside a river, beach, incoming cold front, wind direction change, down a valley or on a peak.
    Especially in a tarp without doors.

    I'm doorless...and in the 8, 10 or 12hrs of dark sleeping time, a breeze always sneak up.
    Same goes for rain...12hrs is plenty of time for a weather change.
    From the tropics to the temperate zone...I always take a protector.
    They're light & block the wind.

    Good luck if you go down the wookie trail...and welcome to the forum, whoopie.
    Last edited by ofuros; 03-26-2018 at 15:31.
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    New Member whoopie's Avatar
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    That's it , usually I am so comfortable in a blackbird it takes 9-12 hrs .
    Should I shorten my sleep to avoid the weather changes :-)

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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopie View Post
    Hi Shug , nice to hear you !
    Admire your youtube channel , lot's of good video's.

    The 20 incubator was not warm enough for me , maybe because of the fabrics.
    The fabric seems to be very thin not very wind proof. Also too short in standard size.
    The new pertax fabric could be it but again the same shape as the incubator and difficulties to get it tight without too much pressure.

    Would go for the winter wooki as the minimum , just to be sure.
    Gonna check the links for sure, thanks
    Here is an XLC review with Wooki, top cover and underquilt protector and how they function together. May give some insight too.
    Shug

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    New Member whoopie's Avatar
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    Great !
    Maybe the solution to stay warm during the whole night.
    However , the winter wooki as the minimum insulation.

    How about the Black Mamba winter version , any suggestions here ?
    Together a nice set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopie View Post
    Should I shorten my sleep to avoid the weather changes :-)
    No way....I go looking for incoming bad weather.
    Scary but exiting....
    Mountain views are good for the soul....& getting to them is good for my waistline.

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