Why not Becket?

**johnspenn** · 03-03-2018, 11:59

Originally Posted by Shug

Becket is good and a perfect choice for those that prefer pure.
For me, I prefer to make small adjustments in my hammock suspension for my ultimate sweet spot without tying and untying a knot in my suspension.
Shug

+1

To answer the OP, I like the becket as an option if needed, such as in a short hang scenario, but typically use straps and whoopies for easy adjustment without having to untie/re-tie knots.

**rweb82** · 03-03-2018, 12:07

It's not a prusik knot. It's just larksheaded to the webbing. It does not need any redressing.

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**rweb82** · 03-08-2018, 18:12

Originally Posted by MikekiM

Need another picture of this if you can, please...

Here's a pic of it with the Becket Hitch tied around the soft shackle. As I said before, there is no prusik knot. So there's no need to redress the knot. It's just larksheaded to the webbing.

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**GadgetUK437** · 03-09-2018, 01:31

Originally Posted by cmoulder

What concerns me, as IcyThunder alluded to above, is the friction and wear from releasing the slipped bight. After being loaded all night, I found both Becket and J-Bend required a very hard yank in order for them to release. This cannot be good for the straps or for the CL in the long run.

Are you "breaking the back" of the knot first? Or just yanking?
(third illustration)

**cmoulder** · 03-09-2018, 07:50

Yes, "breaking the back" works pretty well with heavier poly or poly/dyneema straps, however IME not well at all with Venom, especially when cold, even less so when wet and nigh impossible when wet+frozen.

In any event, I backpack year-'round and need something that works all the time, whatever the weather. I have used the MSH-direct-to-CL a few times now and have found the suspension setup that 'checks all the boxes' — works in all conditions with the least hassle, works with closely spaced trees and is quite light in weight.

**HangingOut** · 03-09-2018, 08:37

As I recently mentioned in another thread.....using a 1/8" CL makes it a lot easier to release a becket hitch knot (as compared to 7/64" CL).

**MrJames** · 03-13-2018, 08:45

With either Becket or J-Bend, if you have trouble doing the "breaking" the knot as shown in Gadjet's post, whatever cordage and straps you're using, I find my chopstick trick a helpful solution. And for any knot that is difficult to untie. I'm speaking of camping knots, not rescue work. ; )

Insert a 4 or 5 inch piece of a bamboo chopstick's food end into the knot, much like a marlin spike hitch toggle. It bears no weight, only compression from the cord's knot. Weighs no more than a gram, and slides out easily giving you an empty space in the knot to work with so you can loosen the knot, and the pointed end of the stick helps untie any tight knot without damage to the cord. A round chopstick shaft is better than an oval one, and a 4 or 5 inch piece is about right. I can't speak for use with 7/64" cord as I use only 1/8 amsteel for bearing my weight. I do all my hanging with Dutch's 15 foot Kevlar 3.3 straps and a J-Bend, nothing more.

But for thin cord knots of all kinds, although the chopstick helps, it doesnt have that second advantage of having a tool in your hand with a small enough point to work a tight knot looser. On thin cord knots, a blanket safety pin with the sharp pointed tip filed completely rounded (just like the end of a small metal splicing fid), is handy and helps the same way for breaking and especially untying without hurting the cord. Try both.

https://www.amazon.com/GUANLANG-12pc...CYPGM94Y3T6H5Z

On the bamboo stick, sand the blunt tapered food end of the bamboo, rounding it the same as if it were a fid, so it won't rough up your cord. Hope this helps

**Rouskof** · 03-13-2018, 11:46

Originally Posted by brianb

I put one or two additional wraps around before pushing the bite through on the becket. I've never had it slip and it's definitely easier to untie than a single loop around. .

I'll try that, thanks for the tip !

Originally Posted by rweb82

Here's a pic of it with the Becket Hitch tied around the soft shackle. As I said before, there is no prusik knot. So there's no need to redress the knot. It's just larksheaded to the webbing.

I do not understand the point of having this soft shackle there

**rweb82** · 03-13-2018, 13:02

Originally Posted by Rouskof

I'll try that, thanks for the tip !

I do not understand the point of having this soft shackle there

I think it's more secure than a Marlin spike hitch (don't have to worry about whoopie slings slipping off the knot and onto the toggle). I also don't have to worry about having toggles. I find the adjustment of the whoopie sling to be much smoother than having the it run over the Marlin spike hitch. Lastly, I can also keep my whoopies connected to the webbing at all times-via the soft shackle. Or I can remove them if I want.

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**Rouskof** · 03-13-2018, 16:47

Originally Posted by rweb82

I think it's more secure than a Marlin spike hitch (don't have to worry about whoopie slings slipping off the knot and onto the toggle). I also don't have to worry about having toggles. I find the adjustment of the whoopie sling to be much smoother than having the it run over the Marlin spike hitch. Lastly, I can also keep my whoopies connected to the webbing at all times-via the soft shackle. Or I can remove them if I want.

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Oh, got it now! This is a woopie, I thought it was the continuous loop of the hammock, directly!