Just a quick note on my Claytor JH. It has been my go to hammock since 2007 and I am retiring it this year as my go to backpacking hammock. I will say though that the Claytor Hammock is a great setup to get started on. In 10 years of backpacking with it it has served me quite well and has been incredibly durable. It is still in great shape and I am sure it will get used again but wanted to just put my 2 cents in that if you want to get started the hammock and tarp combo is still a deal you should consider and can buy with confidence.