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    4 season underquilt

    I am new to hammock camping and want to camp year round, all seasons
    I am looking at buying a 4 season Top and UQ rated at 5*-10*.
    My question is how can I use this system in warmer weather?
    will I have buy additional quilts for the warmer seasons?
    If so am I better off buying a 3 season system and adding additional clothes and pads to get down to the cooler temps?

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    By venting both winter quilts.

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    Venting the UQ......you can always stick a leg out of the TQ.
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    The primary factor is whether you are hiking. Cost aside, there is no reason to carry a 5* F to -10* F in 60* weather. My first two years I used 20* quilts, and that's a fine weight if you can only own one set of quilts. However, I eventually wanted to lower my weight so I got some 40* quilts for warmer weather. Then, I wanted 0* quilts for colder weather. I probably could have just stacked the 40* and 20* quilts, but the UQs were both 3/4, and I wanted a full length UQ for colder weather.

    If you're car camping and not hiking, then venting will probably work for a warmer quilt.
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    I don't think there is such a thing as a 4 season quilt. There is the summer UQ, winter UQ and then the everything between the two temp ranges UQ.

    A 20F quilt set will be the closest you will get but the tradeoffs are big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    I don't think there is such a thing as a 4 season quilt. There is the summer UQ, winter UQ and then the everything between the two temp ranges UQ.

    A 20F quilt set will be the closest you will get but the tradeoffs are big.
    I agree. There are only 3 season quilts, sleeping bags & tents. Spring-summer-fall or fall-winter-spring.
    A four season bag & tent? You'll die in the summer, not enuff ventilation & the bag is retaining too much body heat.
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    For bottom insulation I'd err on the warmer side. If you only want to buy once, maybe consider a winter UQ which you can vent in warmer temps and a 3 season TQ which you could stack with an old sleeping bag to extend it's range for winter. It depends on how often you go out in each season and what kind of camping you do but as mentioned there is no all year system. Personally I'd rather be a little too warm in three seasons than not warm enough in winter.
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    My winter quilt is a 20° in Texas. :-)

    With a 40° and a fleece blanket, I'd have my bases covered.

    Not sure if I can handle those 3/4 underquilts like some people due to an injury.. Time will tell.

    Anyways, it would be good to first figure out what temperatures you would camp in. I've heard someone using a 20° up to 65° before switching to fleece (until they acquired a 40°). My fleece came from Jacks 'R Better.

    It is a commonly held belief that one should purchase a quilt that withstands the lowest expected temperature.

    Hang safe.

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    A good combo for me is 0deg full-length, 20deg and 40deg shorty UQs, with 20deg and 40deg TQs. In the winter I add down parka and down pants that easily work with the 20deg TQ to get the system rating comfortably down to 0. I also have a 50deg TQ for when it's really warm. This works for 99% of the seasons/locales I will ever encounter.

    As a backpacker primarily with a far greater emphasis on hiking vs camping and light weight vs luxury, I want the sleep system (and pack in general) to be as light as possible whatever the season. Kinda crazy IMO to carry around 5-6 lbs worth of bulky sleeping gear when <2 lbs will do.
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