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    Quote Originally Posted by snwcmpr View Post
    Generous return policy is gone. One year now.
    One year is still extremely generous compared to most places. I don’t know anywhere else that gives even 90.

    The problem is too many people use it as a free rental program.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroma View Post
    Here’s my question maybe you can answer in the review. Why would anyone want a 45 ounce hammock?
    It really depends on HYOY. Heck, I consider my Exped Ergo and WBBB XLC to be relegated to the back yard / truck camping scene as they are way to heavy for my backpacking purposes. But that is were the Hammocktent Gamma UL and SL DH Raven come into their niche.

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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    It'll get some new folks going. Just like ENO.
    On the shelf....ready to buy.
    In my opinion though you can't beat many of our cottage vendors. They are in the know and usually make only hammock type gear.
    You can't get a good ribeye steak at McDonalds!
    Shug
    Whooooo Buddy)))) All Secure in Sector Seven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    You can't get a good ribeye steak at McDonalds!
    Shug
    Mmmm, steak......

    Great analogy!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroma View Post
    Here’s my question maybe you can answer in the review. Why would anyone want a 45 ounce hammock?
    exactly, go up to 47 oz and get a Draumr!

    gram weenies need not apply

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    The bridge hammock they came out with - but never appeared in the stores for long - looked like a good "starter" for the price, but they were supposed to come out with an under quilt for it last summer. The UQ never materialized. So that makes me raise an eyebrow at REI branded gear. I guess like all things, some of it's good, some of it is not so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    The bridge hammock they came out with - but never appeared in the stores for long - looked like a good "starter" for the price, but they were supposed to come out with an under quilt for it last summer. The UQ never materialized. So that makes me raise an eyebrow at REI branded gear. I guess like all things, some of it's good, some of it is not so good.
    A lot of items like this come down to the product manager. If they gave the project to someone who didn’t really care about or knowledgeable about the product they are in charge of, it’s not likely to do well.
    This one looks much the same. Some kid who’s never been in a real hammock but thinks they can revolutionize the market instead of using tried and true methods.


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    Think of REI as the filter/funnel. Many many outdoor enthusiasts go there/start there. Sure, many are occasional weekends types, but they keep the revenue stream that allows mfgrs to invest in new designs. As for the funnel effect,a subset of those visitors that want to get more involved will start doing their hands on learning and start supporting cottage vendors or make their own gear. I personally don't really go there unless I need some shorts - then I will check out the garage sales. I miss the days of the Attic...But you can't have everything....

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    REI no longer can sell a cottage product, I think, because the sales/production volume needs to be too large.
    I bought my first (down) WM sleeping bag at the REI in San Dimas, Ca in the early 90s. I had a 5 lb synthetic bag made by Ken's Mountaineering in Reno Nevada from the early 80s. A 3 lb zero degree bag was an early UL move, I did not know I needed UL.
    WM is now on Amazon, but not REI.

    I do look at the hammock section at REI, it could be easily missed if you are not looking for it.

    Ken in NC
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxAggie View Post
    A lot of items like this come down to the product manager. If they gave the project to someone who didn’t really care about or knowledgeable about the product they are in charge of, it’s not likely to do well.
    This one looks much the same. Some kid who’s never been in a real hammock but thinks they can revolutionize the market instead of using tried and true methods.
    Yep. The problem with REI getting into the hammock market is that they don't seem to put any effort into education. Each time I camp with others in the general populace, there are more people in hammocks, and almost all of them complain about being uncomfortable, and/or have the things strung up guitar-string tight.

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