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    Senior Member GadgetUK437's Avatar
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    The Vee for me, but mainly because I am using 300lb Dyneema fishing line on end tieouts, so doubling up adds a bit of strength.
    And the 3:1 mechanical advantage is handy too.

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    Senior Member johnspenn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    Not the slightest damage. I've heard people complain that they can "hear" the hammock suspension rubbing against the tarp suspension or vice versa. I have excellent hearing (the military said I could hear things that only cats could hear) and have never "heard" anything, even in high winds. If somebody can "hear" Zing-it rubbing against a 1-inch strap, they've got better hearing than me.

    Dejoha, who originally promoted the "V" suspension, claimed that he started using the "V" because the hammock line and the tarp line "kept interfering with each other." However, as TxAggie mentioned, I found the "V" to be an "answer in search of a problem" I've never had. I've never had this interference that Dejoha mentions.

    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...arp+suspension
    With me, it's not so much the sound but the vibration transmitted through the system when the lines rub. I don't stake my hammock out because I like some sway and whenever the hammock and tarp suspensions rub together I feel that vibration and it "harshes my mellow". Thus, I use a V to mitigate that sensation.

    If that's not a problem for you, don't use the V. I'm keeping mine =) HYOH, YMMV etc etc...

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    No damage. Lot of forests around my stomping ground are either old or young. Big trees with potential widowmakers, or younger small diameter trees that are stout enough to hang on, but which hanging on means you don't get a very wide V. So, consequently, it just doesn't matter, I'm getting some contact anyway.
    "I wonder if anyone else has an ear so tuned and sharpened as I have, to detect the music, not of the spheres, but of earth, subtleties of major and minor chord that the wind strikes upon the tree branches. Have you ever heard the earth breathe... ?"
    - Kate Chopin

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    Senior Member MikekiM's Avatar
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    Never used a V in my ridge line.

    I use one of three setups depending on a number of factors and none create the V. A CRL with Dutch Hook and Dutch toggle, with mini-ucrs; SMURL.. which is separate ridge lines with Dutch Hooks and mini-ucrs; SLS, which pitches the tarp & hammock on the same straps with no real dedicated ridge line.

    On the first two, I have the ridge line come off one side of the tree and the straps come off the opposite. And I like to set the RLs so they follow the same 30* angle as the straps. No V needed.
    Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
    Bob's brother-in-law

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    Member CanoeJoe's Avatar
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    I use the V here. I tend to move around a lot on the first nights sleep and dont like the lines rubbing on each other. All of my lines and hardware are always attatched and ready to go along with tarp sleeves.

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    Senior Member HoosierT's Avatar
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    No V for me. Split ridgeline with Dutch hooks and UCRs larksheaded to the tarp. The rubbing hasn't caused any issues and I'm a gram weenie so carrying twice the needed line to make a V doesn't interest me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otter1 View Post
    So does everyone who doesn't use the V have their tarp rest on the hammock suspension? No damage?
    No damage at all, no noise from rubbing because the lines don't touch. Tarp always higher on the tree than the hammock, I am old and stiff and can't deal with a low hung tarp.
    If you prepare for failure you will probably succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GadgetUK437 View Post
    The Vee for me, but mainly because I am using 300lb Dyneema fishing line on end tieouts, so doubling up adds a bit of strength.
    And the 3:1 mechanical advantage is handy too.
    Where do you get the 300lb Dyneema fishing line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyhiker View Post
    +1 Ditto
    Me too. Dutch line and stingerz

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