Congratulations Warbonnet Blackbird Hammock Wins SectionHiker.com Gear of the Year Award

[hodad]

See link below

https://sectionhiker.com/warbonnet-b...r-of-the-year/

[Vanhalo]

Where is he getting 14.5 oz for his Blackbird setup?

It is listed as 16oz. without any suspension.

• Single Layer 1.6 Blackbird:
• Weight capacity: 250 Lbs
• Item weight (webbing/buckles): 1 lb. 6 oz.
• Item weight (whoopies): 1 lb. 4 oz.
• Item weight (continuous loops): 1lb. 0oz.
• Fabric: 40D Nylon

Were the BBs significantly lighter 3 years ago?

Weighing 14.5 ounces, including whoopie slings, a bishop bag, permanently attached mosquito netting, the Blackbird isn’t the lightest weight hammock you can buy these days, but I’m willing to carry a few more ounces in the name of comfort since I can save weight in other areas of my gear list.

[TrailSlug]

This isn't at all surprising considering Warbonnet one of the most popular cottage vendors in the US and the hammock is so comfortable with some amazing cutting edge features. Congrats Warbonnet.

[Grapenut]

For what it's worth, My go-to backpacking hammock is an older style, single-layer, 1.1 weight fabric WBBB that I tricked out a bit. Mine has a Dynaglide ridge line, Dynaglide dog bones instead of continuous loops, and lighter weight shock cord for the side tieouts. It weighs in at 13.5 ounces in a cuben fiber bishop bag.

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[Vanhalo]

Hmmm....I would like get my hands on the older lighter version to see how it rides.

I just realized @ 180# I am too heavy for the 1.1 BB.

Or am I?

[Grapenut]

Hmmm....I would like get my hands on the older lighter version to see how it rides.

I just realized @ 180# I am too heavy for the 1.1 BB.

Or am I?

I am 180. It is good to 200

[Philsweep]

Way to go. I love my blackbird also and warbonnet has been a gem to deal with over the years

[OneClick]

Hmmm....I would like get my hands on the older lighter version to see how it rides.

I just realized @ 180# I am too heavy for the 1.1 BB.

Or am I?

I was always tempted at 170lb, but I passed due to some possible comfort issues discussed on the site (my emphasis in red):



Under 150 LBS:Single 1.1, single 1.7 and double 1.1 Blackbirds, or single or double layer RidgeRunner. You’re a lightweight, and any of these will do you well. Remember a double layer is highly recommended if you plan on using a full-length pad as your primary bottom insulation.

150-175 LBS:Single 1.7 and Double 1.1 Blackbirds or single or double layer RidgeRunner. In this weight range, you would notice a loss of flatness by going with the single 1.1 Blackbird. In contrast, the single 1.7, and double 1.1 Blackbirds are going to provide great support and comfort for your weight, the double 1.7 Blackbird is overkill for you if you’re trying to go lightweight and you won’t see any increase in comfort by stepping up to that model, but it is more durable… the extra ~8oz for the Double layer 1.7 would give you alot more durability and is a good choice for anybody not concerned about packweight.

175-200 LBS:Single layer 1.7, double layer 1.1, double layer 1.7 and double layer Ridgerunner. Single 1.7, and double 1.1 Blackbirds will all give you great support and comfort and are a good lightweight option. Double 1.7 Blackbird is overkill for you and you won’t increase support or comfort by going that route, but it’s a great option for someone not concerned about packweight as the extra 8oz gives you alot more durability

[Vanhalo]

I use a single 1.7 XLC now. or 70D. It's my benchmark thus far.

My target weight will be around 168-175lbs.

So its look like I need to try a Double 1.1 Blackbird.

[OneClick]

So its look like I need to try a Double 1.1 Blackbird.

That's what I bought about 6 years ago. Mainly just to slip a pad into, but ended up getting right into underquilts anyway. I still like the double 1.1. I wasn't a fan of the 1.7 feel on my Traveler hammock.