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    I don't have a lot of experience with a variety of gear. I have Dutch's black & white dyneema.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    Dyneema or poly dyneema
    Dutch's dyneema is blue with black racing stripes
    And his poly dyneema looks to be black or gray and white.
    Lots of new gear for me to learn.
    If blue dyneema with black racing stripes--Do you use hardware with blue dyneema?


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    No, Dutch even says the blue do not work well with hardware. The blue is great if you want to tie with a Becket Hitch or if you want to use toggles with a Marlin spike hitch.
    If you want to use hardware, he suggests the black and white poly blend straps. A little heavier, but the poly gives more grip.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TxAggie View Post
    If you want to use hardware, he suggests the black and white poly blend straps. A little heavier, but the poly gives more grip.
    I've discovered that under tension, this strap will hold a multi-buckle in place with a single pass of webbing through it. It's nice because I want to be able to use the multi-buckle as a toggle and hang my tarp from the same strap as my hammock.


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    Senior Member Dhagan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by grubbster View Post
    I'll present a different perspective. To save weight you can get shorter straps, maybe 10 feet, and carry a couple of 4' amsteel dogbones. That way you can lengthen your suspension if the situation dictates.
    How much weight savings is there? Cant be much. My problem would be losing/leaving the amsteel and not having it when needed. I dont thru hike so those few ounces dont mean nearly as much to me, as making sure I can hang at night does. But...that's just me...HYOH! Happy trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhagan View Post
    How much weight savings is there? Cant be much. My problem would be losing/leaving the amsteel and not having it when needed. I dont thru hike so those few ounces dont mean nearly as much to me, as making sure I can hang at night does. But...that's just me...HYOH! Happy trails!
    Since this is your first (but likely NOT your last) hammock, just longer straps and buckles/Whoopi’s will serve you pretty well. They’re easy to learn, and provide minimal parts to deal with. You’ll learn a lot by using them, then attend a hang or other group outings where you can see others in use and compare to yours. Suspension systems are relatively inexpensive and you can slowly swap pieces in and out until you dial in exactly what you want. I’m getting ready to order more kit myself for some DIY hang options.

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    I always do multiple wraps around the tree when possible. Disperses the load better (like wider straps) and the extra friction reduces the load on your Dutch clip/biner (if one is used).

    I say go with 15' because here's a sentence you will never hear uttered: "I wish I'd brought shorter straps."
    "Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates." -Mark Twain

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    I have several suspensions for different hammocks. typically if your using whoopies, shorter straps or tree huggers are used. If your using buckles or descender rings then longer straps should be used. As for the excess, slippery half hitch will get it all up out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcksparow View Post
    I always do multiple wraps around the tree when possible. Disperses the load better (like wider straps) and the extra friction reduces the load on your Dutch clip/biner (if one is used).

    I say go with 15' because here's a sentence you will never hear uttered: "I wish I'd brought shorter straps."
    ...beat me to it. Quote and all....
    Welcome, and you can trust us when we tell you you will have multiple suspensions all too soon. They are just part of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcksparow View Post
    I say go with 15' because here's a sentence you will never hear uttered: "I wish I'd brought shorter straps."
    Well, that's what I have said to myself a lot... I tend to be overcautious, and the ounces adds up. After the first couple of miles of walking, I start wishing I had been less generous. But I agree that it's a better idea to start with long tree straps. It's easy to shorten them once you gained experience.

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    Not to mention that with the newer types of lightweight webbing hitting the market, a few extra feet really don't carry much of a weight penalty. Got a chance to handle some Spider Web 2.0 at MAHHA, which seriously feels lighter than the air around it.
    "Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates." -Mark Twain

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