I've tried Tatos and soft shackles are there any better options for CRL's?

**TrailSlug** · 10-22-2017, 19:23

Guys,
I've tried Tatos and soft shackles are there any better options for CRL's?

**johnspenn** · 10-22-2017, 19:45

Hey TS, I happen to think so. My setup is very simple with one piece of hardware- Dutch Fleaz- and no knots. Basically it's this: On my tarp, I have one soft shackle and one continuous loop that has the Fleaz spliced to it on either end for my ridgeline tie-outs. I use a 30' piece of Zing-it with an fixed eye spliced in one end for the ridgeline itself. I attach the fixed eye to the soft shackle, run the line around the tree on that end, then back over or under the tarp to the tree on the other end (based on situation and preference). Once I go around the other tree then it's back to the Fleaz, where I make my adjustments and final attachment.

Once it's all set up it's even easier when I have my tarp skinned, I never have to take my RL off my tarp.

This method is similar to Derek Hanson's "Deep V" method. The V's formed by the line going around the trees keep the tarp ridgeline from interfering with the hammock suspension.

If you're interested I made a video showing how I set it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-lqQTSjnM&t=118s

The first 2 minutes or so show the ridgeline. Good luck finding what works best for you!

**Countrybois** · 10-22-2017, 20:15

Originally Posted by TrailSlug

Guys,
I've tried Tatos and soft shackles are there any better options for CRL's?

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**1-Hung-Low** · 10-22-2017, 20:40

I use (home made CL's) with toggles attached to my CLR similar to the UGQ set up. The toggles go through the split rings of the tarp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=NIilwYJkoTM Toggles @ 3:44

http://www.animatedknots.com/klemheist/index.php

**jcksparow** · 10-22-2017, 21:10

I use the smallest size s-biners attached via prusiks. Cheap and very easy to operate. Nowhere near as strong as ti-bling or dyneema soft-shackles, but I actually like that the s-biners would probably fail before my tarp does.

IMG_2130.jpg

**mudsocks** · 10-22-2017, 23:42

Frankly I would be surprised to find a better solution than the soft shackle/prusik combo:

https://ulweekendwarrior.files.wordp...9/img_4322.jpg

(not my image, but I use very similar setup.)

It's light, inexpensive, holds tight, DIY, what's not to love?

**sqidmark** · 10-23-2017, 05:02

Search for mini-ucr's.

**Five Tango** · 10-23-2017, 05:18

Originally Posted by johnspenn

Hey TS, I happen to think so. My setup is very simple with one piece of hardware- Dutch Fleaz- and no knots. Basically it's this: On my tarp, I have one soft shackle and one continuous loop that has the Fleaz spliced to it on either end for my ridgeline tie-outs. I use a 30' piece of Zing-it with an fixed eye spliced in one end for the ridgeline itself. I attach the fixed eye to the soft shackle, run the line around the tree on that end, then back over or under the tarp to the tree on the other end (based on situation and preference). Once I go around the other tree then it's back to the Fleaz, where I make my adjustments and final attachment.

Once it's all set up it's even easier when I have my tarp skinned, I never have to take my RL off my tarp.

This method is similar to Derek Hanson's "Deep V" method. The V's formed by the line going around the trees keep the tarp ridgeline from interfering with the hammock suspension.

If you're interested I made a video showing how I set it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-lqQTSjnM&t=118s

The first 2 minutes or so show the ridgeline. Good luck finding what works best for you!

Man,that's a slick set up! Not exactly sure how you got the tarp to slide back and forth by pulling on just one end though.I've always had to put up the ridge and then manually slide my prussiks manually etc.

**hutzelbein** · 10-23-2017, 05:59

I got rid of prusiks because they kept slipping. My first tarp suspension was a single piece ridgeline made from 2.2mm Lash-It with softshackle prusiks made from 1.75mm Lash-It. When I started running the ridgline over the tarp (due to problems with rain running under the tarp), it was difficult to get the tarp tight. And once I pulled the guy lines tight, the prusiks on the ridgeline slipped incrementally. I solved this problem by switching to Stingerz and a split ridgeline. But you can build a continuous ridgeline with Dutch Hardware, too. You get a better mechanical advantage and it's easier to get the tarp tight. And I have never had anything slip again with Dutchware.

Here is one example of using Dutch hardware with a CRL:

https://i1.wp.com/theultimatehang.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/11/continuous-ridgeline-dutch-hook1.png

You could also use Stingerz or Fleaz instead of the Flyz.

**johnspenn** · 10-23-2017, 06:46

Originally Posted by Five Tango

Man,that's a slick set up! Not exactly sure how you got the tarp to slide back and forth by pulling on just one end though.I've always had to put up the ridge and then manually slide my prussiks manually etc.

Hey FiveT, check out Derek Hanson's video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-IkTg4z6UY

The principle is the same, just different hardware.

Also, the illustration hutzelbein posted is the same idea, with the addition of a Dutch hook, in place of using a soft shackle on that end. That would make it a little easier, but require and additional piece of hardware.