Greylock 3 & Hudson River (over-stuff both 1 ounce)?

**Vanhalo** · 10-06-2017, 17:00

Good idear?

Or nay. nay. thrice nay?

Thought I might turn these two into 20 degree quilts.

I would rarely need anything lower in Gitmo Fema fema_regions.jpgRegion IV.

**Shug** · 10-06-2017, 17:05

Originally Posted by Vanhalo

Good idear?

Or nay. nay. thrice nay?

Thought I might turn these two into 20 degree quilts.

I would rarely need anything lower in Gitmo Fema fema_regions.jpgRegion IV.

They are 20 degree quilts already. An extra once really is meant to keep the down in place better.
Had my HR tq to 15 degrees once a d was just fine.
Shug

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**Vanhalo** · 10-06-2017, 17:22

Originally Posted by Shug

They are 20 degree quilts already. An extra once really is meant to keep the down in place better.
Had my HR tq to 15 degrees once a d was just fine.
Shug

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I know the Greylock and possibly the Hudson River were (at one time) rated as 20 degree quilts but now they are rated @25-30 degree quilts.

Is your Hudson River an older version that was rated @ 20?

Greylock 3

Length 56 in. (1.4 m)
Width 42 in. (1.07 m)
Loft 2.5 in. (7.6 cm)
Material 0.9 oz., 20D, ripstop nylon
Insulation 800 Fill Power Goose Down
Weight 17 oz. (0.48 kg)
Temperature Rating 25º-30º F (-7º C)

Hudson River

Length: 78 inches (1.98 m)
Width: 48 inches (1.22 m)
Loft: 2.5 Inches (6.4 cm)
Material: 0.9 oz., 20 denier, ripstop nylon
Insulation: 800 fill power goose down
Weight: 21.5 ounces (0.61 kg)
Temperature Rating: 25°-30° F (-4° C)

**dkurfiss** · 10-06-2017, 17:34

My suggestion is to call the Jacks and explain what you are trying to do and get their input. I have always found them to very helpful when I was purchasing from them and had to made a decision between two of their products.

**Shug** · 10-06-2017, 19:51

Originally Posted by Vanhalo

I know the Greylocks and possibly the Hudson Rivers were (at one time) rated as 20 degree quilts but now they are rated @25-30 degree quilts.

Is your Hudson River an older version that was rated @ 20?

Greylock 3

Length56 in. (1.4 m)
Width42 in. (1.07 m)
Loft2.5 in. (7.6 cm)
Material0.9 oz., 20D, ripstop nylon
Insulation800 Fill Power Goose Down
Weight17 oz. (0.48 kg)
Temperature Rating25º-30º F (-7º C)

Hudson River

Length: 78 inches (1.98 m)
Width: 48 inches (1.22 m)
Loft: 2.5 Inches (6.4 cm)
Material: 0.9 oz., 20 denier, ripstop nylon
Insulation: 800 fill power goose down
Weight: 21.5 ounces (0.61 kg)
Temperature Rating: 25°-30° F (-4° C)

That I did not know.

Disregard my comment feller.

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**Vanhalo** · 10-07-2017, 10:26

Originally Posted by Shug

That I did not know.

Disregard my comment feller.

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Here is an interesting forum discussion on it.

I am pretty convinced that overstuffing 1 ounce (on the current JRB models in question) is the way to go for me.

Adding 1 ounce of over-stuff increases warmth by 5 degrees. Exactly what I want for $10.

Originally Posted by Peter_pan

RT, TAK, et al,

TAK is correct.... If you want to push a couple more degrees of warmth this is true but at additional cost.

JRB quilts are all over stuffed by 15-22 percent depending on the model...Their temp range capabilty are conservative and no additional overfill
is needed to achieve the advertzed capabilty....It has always been our policy to build the quilt to its stated level without recommending overfill.

Why don't we recommend a 2 oz overfill for someone seeking a warmer quilt? simple 2 oz is 10 degrees warmer and cost +$40.... generally going to the winter model of the same design get 20 degrees warmer for +$50 ... a better value IOHO.

Pan

**Peppy** · 10-07-2017, 11:14

Keep in mind that JRB already over stuffs and doesn't recommend extra.
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A JRB Hudson River has 12 ounces of 800+ fill goose down and is rated for 25-30 degrees.
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By comparison, an HG incubator 20 has 12 ounces of 850 goose down and is rated for 20 degrees. (An Econ version has 13.2 ounces of 800 duck down)
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An extra ounce or two can buy a bit of confidence, but I don't think it's necessary. In most cases, for the same price as 2 ounces of overstuff, you can just buy the next warmer quilt. It is my belief the Jacks are just extra conservative on their ratings. I had a JRB MW3 with 2 ounces of overstuff that I was really warm in at 17 degrees. I now have a MW4 and never worry.

Let us know what you decide! I really like my JRB gear!

**Vanhalo** · 10-07-2017, 11:25

Originally Posted by Peppy

Keep in mind that JRB already over stuffs and doesn't recommend extra.
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A JRB Hudson River has 12 ounces of 800+ fill goose down and is rated for 25-30 degrees.
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By comparison, an HG incubator 20 has 12 ounces of 850 goose down and is rated for 20 degrees. (An Econ version has 13.2 ounces of 800 duck down)
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An extra ounce or two can buy a bit of confidence, but I don't think it's necessary. In most cases, for the same price as 2 ounces of overstuff, you can just buy the next warmer quilt. It is my belief the Jacks are just extra conservative on their ratings. I had a JRB MW3 with 2 ounces of overstuff that I was really warm in at 17 degrees. I now have a MW4 and never worry.

Let us know what you decide!

They changed their rating from 20-25 degrees to 25-30 degrees on these two quilts sometime after 2009.

Must be a reason why.

I just want the 5 degrees back.

**Peppy** · 10-07-2017, 11:40

Each company is usually conservative. By fill ratings and down used, I still thinks jacks are just being modest. So did you order yet? If so, what did you go with? I'm seriously considering a GL4 with the current sale.

**Vanhalo** · 10-07-2017, 11:42

This chart is not accurate. They do not use 1.1 oz. ripstop (30D) for the shell material anymore.

A JRB Hudson River has 12 ounces of 800+ fill goose down and is rated for 25-30 degrees.
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