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    PolyD(utch)

    Hey Dutch, why don't you like PolyD very much?

    I think it's the most comfortable hammock material you have.

    It would be cool if you got psyched about it again.

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    +1 it should make a come back


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    I liked it but there were characteristics that I felt needed improved on. It was slick and I don't love that about many of the hammock fabrics. You will find that ARGON 1.6 and Hexon fabrics are especially not slick because of my affinity to the cotton like feel of a non slick hammock. Although it had less stretch than nylon, it is weaker. So when you pushed the weight limit of the hammock, it didn't become more uncomfortable because of shoulder squeeze but it did become more uncomfortable from the sudden drop when it would just give out. So it was not a good ultralight option and everyone tries to push those weight limits. When it did fail, it was not a slow release. There was no actual ripstop on the hammock as I thought there was. The diamond pattern of PolyD and NylonD look deceivingly like ripstop, but when you look at it under a microscope you will find it is just a weave and that weave actually weakened the fabric. This was a big deal to me because I felt like I was deceiving the customer. But the number one reason for not liking polyester hammocks is the static. The hammock was light but the grounding wire you had to carry weighed a ton. I like to camp in the winter and when you got that thing is dry air the lightning bolts from the static discharge would wake you from the flashing. If you had hair it would stand straight out like the professor on Back to the Future. And all that static would attract dirt to the hammock. It actually held itself open with out tie outs and with no body in the hammock. Beside those things, I thought it was a complete success.
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    So no more polyester, Dutch? I'd sure like to see a PolyD1.4 replacement - it is really comfortable. Some of us like the minimal stretch. My PolyD 1.4 hammock is holding up fine, and I've got a spare. Then again, I'm only 165 lbs. so I'm not putting much strain on the hammock.

    I never had a problem with static after the first night. Once the PolyD gets a little sweaty man on it, for me the static goes away!
    "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    +1 about the slickness and the static electricity. The nightly light shows were certainly spectacular

    I did like the amount of stretch the 1.4oz PolyD had, though. I made a hammock from 1.6oz Ripstop Polyester, and that felt like sleeping on a slab of concrete. I don't like stretch, but it turned out that a little bit is needed for comfort. The 1.4oz PolyD had that.

    The main reason why I gave up on PolyD was that it was too narrow. The widest hammock I was able to make from 1.4oz PolyD was about 58.5" - which works OKish for a nylon hammock. But the slippery fabric paired with the little stretch had my body sliding towards a 90° angle. My head and feet always slipped over the edges during the night. I think a 70" wide PolyD hammock could have been very comfortable.

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    Dutch, tell us how you really feel and stop beating around the bush..

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I liked it but there were characteristics that I felt needed improved on. It was slick and I don't love that about many of the hammock fabrics. You will find that ARGON 1.6 and Hexon fabrics are especially not slick because of my affinity to the cotton like feel of a non slick hammock. Although it had less stretch than nylon, it is weaker. So when you pushed the weight limit of the hammock, it didn't become more uncomfortable because of shoulder squeeze but it did become more uncomfortable from the sudden drop when it would just give out. So it was not a good ultralight option and everyone tries to push those weight limits. When it did fail, it was not a slow release. There was no actual ripstop on the hammock as I thought there was. The diamond pattern of PolyD and NylonD look deceivingly like ripstop, but when you look at it under a microscope you will find it is just a weave and that weave actually weakened the fabric. This was a big deal to me because I felt like I was deceiving the customer. But the number one reason for not liking polyester hammocks is the static. The hammock was light but the grounding wire you had to carry weighed a ton. I like to camp in the winter and when you got that thing is dry air the lightning bolts from the static discharge would wake you from the flashing. If you had hair it would stand straight out like the professor on Back to the Future. And all that static would attract dirt to the hammock. It actually held itself open with out tie outs and with no body in the hammock. Beside those things, I thought it was a complete success.

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    FYI everybody, I'll be selling my lightly used PolyD 1.4 hammock in the near future (within the next month, I'd say).

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    The nylonD is my favorite hammock material. Second is the polyD. Someday I will try the new fabrics, but is gonna take a while to wear out my "vintage" Dutch fabrics.

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    Thanks Dutch for your carefully chosen words. Looking forward to more of your Doc Brown mad scientist hammock lab creations. I'm confident you can create something worthy of the Dutchware name for the Polyester crowd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I liked it but there were characteristics that I felt needed improved on. It was slick and I don't love that about many of the hammock fabrics. You will find that ARGON 1.6 and Hexon fabrics are especially not slick because of my affinity to the cotton like feel of a non slick hammock. Although it had less stretch than nylon, it is weaker. So when you pushed the weight limit of the hammock, it didn't become more uncomfortable because of shoulder squeeze but it did become more uncomfortable from the sudden drop when it would just give out. So it was not a good ultralight option and everyone tries to push those weight limits. When it did fail, it was not a slow release. There was no actual ripstop on the hammock as I thought there was. The diamond pattern of PolyD and NylonD look deceivingly like ripstop, but when you look at it under a microscope you will find it is just a weave and that weave actually weakened the fabric. This was a big deal to me because I felt like I was deceiving the customer. But the number one reason for not liking polyester hammocks is the static. The hammock was light but the grounding wire you had to carry weighed a ton. I like to camp in the winter and when you got that thing is dry air the lightning bolts from the static discharge would wake you from the flashing. If you had hair it would stand straight out like the professor on Back to the Future. And all that static would attract dirt to the hammock. It actually held itself open with out tie outs and with no body in the hammock. Beside those things, I thought it was a complete success.

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