Done with Whoopies

[PapaSmurf]

I don't mean to say we should avoid them or write off their products. I just think we should all expect (and even demand) that vendors be up front with us.

[UncleMJM]

I don't mean to say we should avoid them or write off their products. I just think we should all expect (and even demand) that vendors be up front with us.

I agree.

My hunch is this is someone young and brand new to business and I'm leaning more to thinking we're seeing enthusiastic ignorance, not conniving.

I hope so anyway.

[ufdigga]

Have you seen the Gecko Straps by a company I think they're called Relax And Do Designs? they seem to have a small loop of webbing attached to the cinch buckle to clip carabiners to so that you dont have to switch out your carabiners for buckles. I used a pair once and they made the process even simpler. No more threading webbing.

Yeah, that might be enthusiastic ignorance, but it's also undeniably conniving. Rough intro to your most ardent potential customer base.

[UncleMJM]

Yeah, that might be enthusiastic ignorance, but it's also undeniably conniving. Rough intro to your most ardent potential customer base.

No argument on "Rough intro".

Too bad on all counts.

I still like Whoopies.

[snwcmpr]

Have you seen the Gecko Straps by a company I think they're called Relax And Do Designs? they seem to have a small loop of webbing attached to the cinch buckle to clip carabiners to so that you dont have to switch out your carabiners for buckles. I used a pair once and they made the process even simpler. No more threading webbing.

Yeah, that might be enthusiastic ignorance, but it's also undeniably conniving. Rough intro to your most ardent potential customer base.

Not an innocent mistake. His wording was chosen to be deceiving.
And no response.

[gunner76]

Tried cinch buckle and didn't like it. Tore up my straps.

Bet you were using soft straps. I find a stiff strap does better with cinch buckles.

[scrope]

I started with carabiners and tree straps with loops. They worked but weren't infinitely adjustable and heavier so I switched.

I went to whoopies and they seemed to work and were much lighter and adjustable but I learned of something else.

I went to UCRs which I liked better but I had two different UCS slip and I swear I'm doing everything right so I got something else.

I bought a WBRR which came with cinch buckles which I'm currently using. Haven't had a problem yet with them but they are very new to me.

I'm thinking about going back to a simple strap without loops and a marlin spike. Really light. Infinitely adjustable (although not quickly). Never let me down. If not that then a whoopie.

[lilbear]

I started out using tree straps with a whoopie using the Phantom Grappler (a cont loop spliced onto the adjustable side of the whoopie, fixed side then attaches to the hammock's continuous loop-- I do this using an evo knot).

I've found that since I'm only about 5' tall, I don't need all of the distance that 10ft straps and 6ft whoopies give me, so I've started using a becket hitch on one side and the phantom grappler on the other, which still allows a little more ease in adjustments than tying and retying the hitch.

My suspicion is that I'll likely start using the becket hitch on both ends and just carrying whoopies and toggles to use if and when I need the added length, even though that will likely mean I'll need a step ladder to get my tree straps high enough.

[Winnie]

I've seen both cinch bugs and beetle buckles both mentioned on this thread. I'm not sure I know what the difference is.

[FlyboyTR]

My wife uses whoopie slings on her hammock. One complaint is when the tree spacing is too close. I took a 6' length of 7/64th Amsteel, tied the ends together and then started tying stopper knots about every 3 to 3.5". I then slipknotted the loop end next to where the whoopie sling attaches to the gathering loop at each end of the hammock (also Amsteel). When the trees are too close together to use the sling, she just simply uses the multi looped/knotted line with a soft shackle attaching it to her 6' mule tape tree straps. It weighs nothing and takes up no space, yet it solved a frustrating problem she was having.