I remember Markr6 saying it is BS about full lenghts, - that they do not allow for a diagonal lay.
The Yeti and Wooki allow for a true diagonal lay. The Yeti, being asymetrical (left / right), is probably specifically designed with that idea in mind, and indeed, it fits like a glove when laying on the diagonal.
What about the other ones ?
If I'm not mistaken (please correct me if so) the LL Habanero is also designed with a specific lay direction, if you opt for that. As well as a specific length to custom fit each individual hanger. I however do not have one to test this, but would be willing to sacrifice someone sending me one to test this theory out.
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I can get a good diagonal lay by adjusting my UQ's suspension. That's in an ENO however, and I'm guessing that my upcoming Chameleon might need more adjustment for a more diagonal lay. Either way, I think that very few people on here sleep banana-style in their hammocks, and most people use underquilts as well. So it might just be more of a theoretical issue than a practical one. I use a HG 20* UQ, which is pretty common.
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As far as I know, the habanero is a traditional underquilt with baffles sewn in diagonally, but its shape is rectangular.Originally Posted by Trail Troll
If I'm not mistaken (please correct me if so) the LL Habanero is also designed with a specific lay direction, if you opt for that. As well as a specific length to custom fit each individual hanger. I however do not have one to test this, but would be willing to sacrifice someone sending me one to test this theory out.
I find an UQ limits my diagonal lay, by a couple inches, but does not stop it. I still get a comfortable diagonal that allows me a flat lay.
I think if you have a good secondary suspension which allows you to adjust each corner independent, it doesn't really limit all that much. Just by the fact that you are stretching the shock cord, any underquilt will inhibit things a bit, but it's minimal.
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This is correct.
As far as uq's go, the only thing that might hinder a more diagonal lay is tension from the suspension. This is a primary reason why the shock cord clews thread exists. The wookie succeeds in this respect for the same reason. That said, an awful lot of people have been using rectangular uq's for quite some time now. I've been under the believe that, essentially laying inside a football shaped object like a conventional GE is probably not the most efficient way to get a flat lay in the first place.
In my limited experience, the effect on a diagonal lay is minimal with both my Incubator and DIY Gemini underquilt.
The Gemini has a clew suspension which seems to be far more flexible. The incubator, even with it's tapered design and standard suspension, doesn't feel like it limits much at all. Very minor limitation on the flat-lay, IMO.
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I'm with Markr6, the UQ does not affect the lay, though if the suspension is tight - and sometimes it needs to be - you can certainly feel the tug of it on your feet and perhaps that might be of some mental effect. The HG Incubator has an interesting cut towards the foot end and could conceivably make for a less aggressive diagonal lay, like you might be inclined to do with a widebody hammock. In most hammocks, there is no issue.
But what is this about the Yeti and Wooki allowing for true diagonal lay? As opposed to what? I could be wrong, I don't own one, but never thought the Yeti was asym and I don't see that on the WB site. If anything, an asym UQ would only minimize weight for areas where insulation could be reduced due to the line of the lay. It wouldn't "allow" for a better lay necessarily, or as you say, a better fit. If anything, the Yeti and Wooki, being designed by WB, might fit better on the BB hammocks and their unique footbox design.
I wonder, is that your actual question, what other UQs fit well on the BB hammocks?
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Good discussion here, but I was 100% mistaken on my original comment. It could have been how I worded it originally, so let's clear that up:
What I was saying had to do with the length. People assume a 44" wide X 78" long UQ will support a person taller than 78" due to the angle. On paper, sure, that's 89.55" (Pythagorean Theorem), but in real life I'm saying it just doesn't work like that. There are more variables involved. If you want full coverage, you're going to need a little breathing room to be safe.
I like to refer to my 72" Incubator. I'm 69" and it's just right. Those 3 "leftover" inches are good to have, and I'm certainly not getting a theoretical 84". So I have to stand by my BS statement in that regard.
On topic with this thread: yes, I think any UQ allows for a diagonal lay...some just better than others.
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