Tree straps, why clip when you can tie?

[MattK]

On my luxury set up, I use some sewn on dutch clips with spiders on hybrid straps. Just about as easy as you can get.

For my backpacking set up, just straight Kevlar straps with one sewn loop. End thru sewn loop, becket hitch to the CL.

I rarely need to adjust my straps so much that I need to go around a branch, and therefore undo the tree strap. Mostly because I am comfortable with a pretty wide range of heights for my hammock: anywhere from UQ just a couple inches off the ground, to needing to almost get on my tip toes.

[Double]

Thanks to phantom grapplers awesome amazing grapplers hitch. Haven't looked back so far. Never tried dutch clips do to being a bigger guy and hearing about how they cut the webbing if hung improperly. All in all I've tried many different set ups from whoopies with toggles to straps and buckles. Found ucr's larks headed to the tree hugs with grapplers hitch and a whoopie hook. This set up is removable and easily adjustable with minimal hardware and weight. This setup has very little fiddling around to get hanging as quickly as possible.

[wa4chq]

I'm a eye-in-the-end-of-me-tree-strap kind of hanger. Now the ridge line for my tarp is a different story. Whatever works for you is cool.

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[Richard Tipton]

Thanks to phantom grapplers awesome amazing grapplers hitch. Haven't looked back so far. Never tried dutch clips do to being a bigger guy and hearing about how they cut the webbing if hung improperly. All in all I've tried many different set ups from whoopies with toggles to straps and buckles. Found ucr's larks headed to the tree hugs with grapplers hitch and a whoopie hook. This set up is removable and easily adjustable with minimal hardware and weight. This setup has very little fiddling around to get hanging as quickly as possible.

I put Grappler's Hitches on all my straps and I've never looked back!

[Wanderlost]

I skip hardware on my suspension altogether. It's just as easy to run the webbing through the foxed loop and beckett hitch it to the hammock. No heavy metal involved at all.

Weight-wise, the extra webbing needed for that figure eight on a bight weight probably just about as a carabiner.

[souperjen24]

The carabiner solution is more useful for strap+buckle suspensions than for whoopie+toggle suspensions.

If I'm just using tree straps to facilitate a whoopie sling attachment, i just use a sewn-loop on the tree strap. Carabiners and clips have not much use in this situation.

So how would you attach the whoppie sling attachment to just the tree straps? I can't picture that. Currently I do what Brandon shows in this video for the whoppies. Thanks!

[ouroboros]

I used the loop on the tree straps, a MSH and whoopee slings up until just recently.

I switched to Cinch Buckles and Dutch Clips... I've learned that it makes my OCD tendencies much quicker and easier to resolve when it comes to hanging the hammock and tarp.

On that note, I used to use taut line hitches on my tarp guylines, I've since switched to hookworms with a wasp, two soft shackles and a dutch tarp hook for the ridgeline too.

[LuvmyBonnet]

I'm Knotarded! I love Dutch bling.

[tsunamihazardzone]

I like to change it up, UCRs with Dutch hooks or straps tied to the continuous loops with a slipped becket hitch are my favorite setups these days. Curious about the beetle buckles.


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[MrJames]

So yes I'm new to hammock camping but a seasoned old salt when it come to knots and webbing.


So I see many hangers use a carabiner to loop their tree strap around the tree. Why not just tie a double figure 8 or figure 8 on a bite? Then you just put your bitter end through the loops you tied and then use your toggles like normal. It seems like it would allow you to eliminate 2 carabiner from your load.
The only reason I can see using the carabiners is to speed up the setup and breakdown process. A I missing something?

Nope, IMO you're not missing anything. I have metal gear and doodads, lots of it, and it's fun. But use it on tarps and other places. As you suggest, when I need a 2" wide tree strap instead of the 1 inch Kevlar ones I typically use, I have such tree huggers I made from 2" soft nylon webbing quickly as you described. I seldom use them but didn't want to bother getting out the sewing machine. The right knots are also fun. As for speed and weight, compare with a stopwatch and gram scale when some people make some of these time and weight saving comparisons.... It takes a real difference to make a difference and as I am not a thru hiker doing hundreds of miles, one ounce difference means nothing to my effort or enjoyment.