Cinch Buckles Permanently Attached To Webbing?

[Caminante]

Strange times we live in. Strange, wonderful times.

[blackbishop351]

Strange times we live in. Strange, wonderful times.

Unless of course you pay any attention to politics.

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[P-Dub]

Strange times we live in. Strange, wonderful times.

Unless of course you pay any attention to politics.

...in which case it's just STRANGE...

[latriper]

Not sure if this is what you are talking about but we have been making our hammocks like this since we started. Webbing/buckle is larks headed through a triple stitched channel. Cinches down as small and as tight as you could want. Works great!

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[oldgringo]

I went through this exact thought process when I first considered using the CC buckles (I was among the first to do so, so there wasn't a lot of field testing to fall back on).

There are a couple general ways to attach them: buckle-webbing-hammock, buckle-cord-hammock, and buckle-webbing-cord-hammock.

The problem with the first one is, how to attach the webbing to the hammock?

Do you use a ton of extra webbing and simply tie a knot like Ed Speer used to? Too much weight, too unreliable.

Do you sew a loop in that end as well, and try to larkshead to the hammock? If you pay attention to how your tree straps act when they're under load around a tree, you'll see that load-bearing webbing is pretty stiff - and therefore doesn't form a very tight larkshead. Conclusion: too much risk of the webbing slipping off the hammock under load.

The problem with the third one is simple durability. Your cord won't slip off your hammock, BUT... under load, using a loop or a larkshead of small cord into a loop of webbing will form quite a pucker, and stress the webbing and the loop stitching in ways you really don't want it to.

The problem with the second is, how to attach cord to the buckle in such a way that it keeps the buckle straight?

My answer (I know Dutch does this differently, but I don't like his approach): a prusik knot. You're using cord on the hammock end, no slippage. There's no webbing to tear up in between. The width of the knot and direction of the load give the buckle several axes of stability. I've been using my buckles this way for years, never had any problems.

Anyway. Just my .02.

I'm having trouble picturing a prusic on a cinch buckle...got a pic?

[blackbishop351]

I'm having trouble picturing a prusic on a cinch buckle...got a pic?

Here ya go.

[oldgringo]

Here ya go.

Thanks!

[blackbishop351]

Thanks!

I've got a series of pics posted here showing how to tie that, if it helps.

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[oldgringo]

I've got a series of pics posted here showing how to tie that, if it helps.

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I call that a triple larkshead, but we're both talking about the same thing.

[blackbishop351]

I call that a triple larkshead, but we're both talking about the same thing.

Yeah, a prusik is just an extended larkshead.

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