I keep my guylines on my tarps.
Here are my Tarp Tutorials if you want to take a look. You may get a few ideas.....https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...r4JzQgQ_iyB2RU
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Guy lines larksheaded onto the tarp and they stay there.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Ralph Waldo Emerson
I would leave your lines attached to the tarp.
Use Duch Wear line locks [URL]http://www.makeyourgear.com/hardware/linelocs-3-single//URL] to adjust your tension. Then the only knot you need is a simple overhand loop to put your stake through.
Or just learn the truckers hitch. ..
Bob
I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison
I bought shock cord today in anticipation of using it on my tarp doors in some way... not exactly sure how yet. So it's possible I could try a system like yours for my side tie outs. I also purchased some line lok's from the website just to have/experiment with.
I'm not sure I quite understand your explanation with your other tarp setup, and I think that's because I'm not 100% sure what tying or splicing a fixed loop into the tie out line would look like. So instead of creating a knot that would make a loop on the line, you just make it permanent by splicing it? I'm almost positive that with my current setup, I've just attached the guy line to the tarp tie-out loops with a lark's head. Does that sound right? And then I hook the line through my NitIze Figure 9's, and then attach to my stakes.
Do you ever find that you wouldn't bring your stakes along? Do you just attach the guyline directly to the stake and then shock cord to the ring on the tarp and connect with the tarp worm?
I bought skins last year because it was always such a mess for me to get the tarp out... I liked the ease to which it seems like the skins will help deploy the tarp. But if I continue to leave the lines on the tarp, I need to get better at folding them up and wrapping the line around it so it doesn't become undone when I unravel the tarp. I've just looked at videos of slip knots... while I feel like I can do that right now, I know that when I get to actually trying it when trying to put that tarp away, it will have all left my brain. I need a lot of practice with stuff like that, my brain just doesn't register it. I will have to figure out a way to securely tie the line if I continue to go this route so it doesn't tangle up.
So when you say the fleas are spliced onto your tie outs, do you mean your guylines? And you connect your guyline to your stake, where it stays stored?
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[QUOTE=souperjen24;1748830]I bought shock cord today in anticipation of using it on my tarp doors in some way... not exactly sure how yet. So it's possible I could try a system like yours for my side tie outs. I also purchased some line lok's from the website just to have/experiment with.
I'm not sure I quite understand your explanation with your other tarp setup, and I think that's because I'm not 100% sure what tying or splicing a fixed loop into the tie out line would look like. So instead of creating a knot that would make a loop on the line, you just make it permanent by splicing it? I'm almost positive that with my current setup, I've just attached the guy line to the tarp tie-out loops with a lark's head. Does that sound right? And then I hook the line through my NitIze Figure 9's, and then attach to my stakes.
So, by way of Tragic Backstory, I used to be a huge devotee of Kelty's Trip-Tease, reflective kernmantle cord. I'd tie a bowline (loop knot) in one end, and I'd use that loop to make a simple hitch through the tie-out. The line is now on the tie-out. I'd put a Fig 9 "somewhere" along that tie-out line. "Somewhere" varies. For example, I might have one side of the tarp in "porch mode", which means I need more line on that side to reach over my branch/tree/pole to raise one side of the tarp into a porch. The other side was tied down tight, with very little line between the tarp tie-out and the Fig 9. So, I'd move the Fig 9's where I wanted them, to give me enough line to do what I wanted. Make sense?
Now, I use either Zing-It or Reflect-It from Dutch. Both are a hollow core cord, so it splices really easily. I make a permanent loop in the cord (eye splice, or locked Brummel splice, you can Google/YouTube search these phrases), slip the loop through the tarp tie-out loop/ring, and pull the line through the loop, just like making a lark's head knot. I like splicing, plus the fiddle factor can't be denied or under-stated. And I've done things like use green line for the starboard, red for port, sides of the tarp. Or Silver for the head end, Gold for the foot. I can be weird that way.
Again, this is my fiddlement, not a doctrine of any sort. I have two tarps, so one has all the lines attached to the tarp (it has line pockets on each tie-out, ala Hennessy Hex) and one with shock cord and Fleaz. I have two sets of stakes, in separate sacks. TBH, I've set up camp with BOTH sets of stakes more often than I've found myself without any. And like others have said, I use rocks and logs to help hold my tarp/stakes/lines, as the occasion and mood strikes.
Thanks,
Ranc0r
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Thanks, SouperJen, for asking your question since it was the same one that I have been mulling over since receiving my line locks from Dutchware on Tuesday. It's the next logical step in prepping my gear for a camp out. I've done a lot of reading in various threads and found pros and cons to each method, but having this thread with concentrated advice from a variety of viewpoints helped me tip the balance to starting out with guylines permanently attached to the tarp for now. Who knows - maybe in a couple years, I'll switch to attaching the guylines to stakes. But at least I have fresh info for choosing a method rather than dithering around another week.
Here's my vid on rolling up the tarp.
I leave the guy lines on the tarp. And I leave 2 guy lines attached to the pullouts. 2 instead of 4 because they are generally used on the windward side of the tarp.
https://youtu.be/WqrCallxZyk
I have shock cord tied onto the tarp tieouts. I then just clip the tarp worm onto the shockcord. My stakes, lines, tarp worms are all hooked together. I count each stake before I leave. I use bright yellow zing it, so it is hard to miss. I always double check I have everything packed up before I leave. It is my system and it works great first me.
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