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    Very nice!! I have a Wooki 20degree, but I might want to do some or all this system for my wife and daughter if they don't like the thermarest slid in between the WBBB1.1dbl layer. I don't mind a little sewing, but no sewing is better!!
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    Very well done. Thank you for sharing!

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    Thanks for the great idea!

    I will try this (I have 2 costco throw at home).

    But I've never used KAM snaps before. What size of snaps do you use? 1/2'' or bigger?

    And for the clew: would you recommend doing a rig like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5M-1M6WsvM

    ... or because we use shockcord, a simple ring to 1 nail (for all the loops) is more than enough???

    Thanks

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    Size 20 snaps (the most common).

    The simple "2 nail" approach works just fine. I can whip a clew in about 5 minutes with this method. You are right that the shock cord balances out any imperfections.

    If you have not purchased shock cord let, I now recommend 1/32 instead of 1/16 for this specific design.

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    Cool idea!

    One thing I don't understand is why all of the crosswise seams are ripped out. In the instructions it says this will allow it to loft higher, but won't it also allow the down to collect at the lowest point, leaving you with little insulation at the head and foot ends? I don't know exactly how down UQs are made, but I always thought that they had interior baffles to prevent this. Anyway, if it is a problem, maybe it would be good to leave a few of the crosswise seams in place. Maybe rip two and leave one, etc.

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    Thank you. I've been wanting to do a diy underquilt and the versatility of this one is awesome. Wondering if I could add more snaps for an underquilt protector as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjoPicker View Post
    Cool idea!

    One thing I don't understand is why all of the crosswise seams are ripped out. In the instructions it says this will allow it to loft higher, but won't it also allow the down to collect at the lowest point, leaving you with little insulation at the head and foot ends? I don't know exactly how down UQs are made, but I always thought that they had interior baffles to prevent this. Anyway, if it is a problem, maybe it would be good to leave a few of the crosswise seams in place. Maybe rip two and leave one, etc.
    I agree. I've thought of ripping every other one but haven't tried it yet. We don't have that many really cold days in central Florida and the sown through design hasn't been an issue for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjoPicker View Post
    Cool idea!

    One thing I don't understand is why all of the crosswise seams are ripped out. In the instructions it says this will allow it to loft higher, but won't it also allow the down to collect at the lowest point
    yes and no?

    I just did this myself last night, and laid my 2 throws down side by side to compare

    the seam ripped throw was almost twice as fluffy as the unaltered throw

    yes you can get some migration, but the theory is that you fluff up and resettle the down each time you deploy it anyway, and you shouldn't see a ton of natural migration over the course of just 1 night


    noticeable difference in loft between the 2 though (half way thru ripping I was pretty skeptical too, but when you looked at progress, it was noticeable even on the 10 inches prior ripped)

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    The answer is a rather complex discussion of 3D geometry, but here's a thought experiment:

    What is the maximum loft of a 5"x5" square filled with down?

    What is the maximum loft of a 1"x1" square filled with down?

    What is the maximum loft of a 5"x70" rectangle of down?

    If you had to put these three options in order from least loft to most loft, how would you order them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leiavoia View Post
    Size 20 snaps (the most common).

    The simple "2 nail" approach works just fine. I can whip a clew in about 5 minutes with this method. You are right that the shock cord balances out any imperfections.

    If you have not purchased shock cord let, I now recommend 1/32 instead of 1/16 for this specific design.
    My cord is on order but not yet delivered and the $10.00 for cord isn't the issue but I'm wondering why you are now suggesting the heavier cord?

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