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    Quote Originally Posted by danah. View Post
    I don't always make a half hitch but when I do
    I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I make it a Dos Equis. Sorry couldn't stop myself.

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    Senior Member zukiguy's Avatar
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    I found the WB buckles to be a pain to loosen from day one. Yes, you have to take every bit of tension off the suspension. Even then though those triangular "d-rings" seem to kind of jam up and take quite a bit of fiddling to loosen. I just swapped them out with a pair from Dutch. I'm much, much happier. I can loosen up the straps with one hand but they still hold rock solid.

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    Senior Member danah.'s Avatar
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    I saw and opportunity.. what can I say..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korse View Post
    I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I make it a Dos Equis. Sorry couldn't stop myself.

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    I have not had any problems with the WBRR buckles. In fact I swapped them over to my Luke's 90 degree hammock because I like them so much. However, they can become exceedingly tight and difficult to undo if you reef the suspension tight. Therefore, I tend to pass a bight through instead of the end. Think of it as a quick release pull with the bight. Still not real easy if tight, but I find that pulling on the loose end of the bight preferable to trying to wiggle it loose with the end passed through.

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    In case anyone misread my post.I never had a slip with the WB buckles.Just had difficulty separating them.That's why I switched over to double descender rings.I do a half hitch on the descender rings because I had a slip once most likely due to not "setting" the strap with a hard tug.I like rings better than anything despite the added oz or so.

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    Nope, never had that problem and I weigh about 235 lbs. I am really surprised your wife caused it to slip. Are those the original webbing straps or have you replaced them?
    “I held a moment in my hand, brilliant as a star, fragile as a flower, a tiny sliver of one hour. I dropped it carelessly, Ah! I didn't know, I held opportunity.” -Hazel Lee

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    Senior Member bwg's Avatar
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    I've had webbing shred like that with the WB buckles. The problem, as mentioned above, is that the webbing is not square with the buckles. If the buckles are turned a bit, or if the webbing is not square in the buckles, they will slip and shred the webbing. I now check buckles carefully before entering the hammock and have not had problems since.

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    Would larksheading a loop, rather than splicing one onto the WB/AHE buckle help? It would certainly seem to help keep the loop in the right place. It would just be a question if the pieces could be separated easily enough for adjustment.

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    I've had it happen and it frayed the strap for about 2 feet, where it frayed caused a failure a few nights latter and I wound up on the ground.I tie a back up slippery hitch now, but I make sure that webbing is feeding into the buckles very flat and straight and the knot acts like a stopped. Pgibson is right, because if the buckles are cock-eyed, they will cut the webbing like scissors.
    "In your face space coyote"-HJS

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    I now have 4 sets of these straps and buckles. One from my original 5 year old Blackbird, a newer Traveler, a separate set for my Grand Trunk hammock and another I just bought from another HF member. All work great and never gave a second thought to adjusting or fiddling with them. The two buckles are either lined up or not; I never mess with them...just make sure one isn't completely rotated 90° from the other. I can just look at them and know. That rarely happens though.

    I don't understand the loosening thing. Unless there's an elephant sitting in your hammock, it's about as easy as loosening a strap on your backpack. Grab the amsteel/whipped end of the hammock to relieve tension and guide the webbing in that direction.

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