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    Quote Originally Posted by fsupaintball View Post
    I'm considering the Trail Lair for my next hammock. I have a few questions if ya don't mind.

    1. Why is it more comfortable to you than the BB XLC?
    2. Any idea if something like a Thunderfly would properly cover it?
    3. Can the bugnet be left behind entirely, and replaced by the wind cover?
    4. Can you easily go without the tie-outs, or do they make a huge difference? And can you use them with an underquilt?
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    Thank you both. That is extremely helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsupaintball View Post
    Thank you both. That is extremely helpful.
    I thought I was posting ShortRounds actual review, but if you follow that link to the top of the thread the YouTube link is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsupaintball View Post
    Thank you both. That is extremely helpful.
    Hey man, I just assumed you meant the tie-outs on the Trail Lair. Yes, I do use the tie-outs on the XLC. They create the gear shelf and pull the bugnet away from your face. And on the old model, the bug net is creates the awesome lay(footbox).

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    I was talking about the Trail Lair... it's all good

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    I am not qualified to answer since I only have a WBRR and a Chameleon wide. Each has its merits, but I do prefer the Chameleon.

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    Hey Peppy Let me know which one your found most comfortable so I could have a look on it
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    If you can or want to learn to sew you can knock some money off doing a lot of those pieces yourself. That said there is a lot of cottage guys that can make lightweight gear for a decent price, especially considering the time involved.

    Don't skimp on insulation for the bottom half, the under quilt. Most people will be too cold to sleep at 60F with no bottom insulation. They assume because they can do it in a house it will work outdoors. A slight breeze and general convection carries away that heat quickly. A pad or piece of reflectix can help. Not sure if you did sleeping bags or quilts when tent camping. For hammocks they become two pieces generally. The top quilt and the under quilt.

    The pair is generally a bit heavier than a sleeping bag would be but you usually get weight savings in the lack of a sleeping pad plus tent weight savings when moving over to a hammock. Only other major choice, and that's relative, is how you intend to hang. What suspension system. That mostly comes down to personal choice. Do use at least 1" webbing tree straps for hanging. Thinner webbing or line can girdle the bark and damage/kill the tree. Otherwise same usual camping advice. Quilt ratings are usually "I'll keep you alive and not comfortable" temperature value so always leave a margin when picking one.

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