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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfed View Post
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    Dutchware sells plastic quilt hooks. You thread one on each end through the primary suspension, hang your quilt like you always do put the quilt hook over the ridge line hook the other side primary suspension and slide the hook back and forth changing the angle from the ridge line to the quilt. In other words you are directing the suspension to pull the quilt up tighter to you. Lay in the hammock and adjust till you feel the warmth. It works!! If you go to arrowhead equipment and look at the triangle thingies you will see a good example of primary sock cord angle to the ridge line and under quilt.

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    Can't count how many times I have seen the end cinch overtightened. Not saying yu should do what I do, but the mine are almost full open... cinched just enough to keep them from flopping. Same on my Incubator, Phincupator and Phoenix.

    Side note.. I just mad a hammock of the new MonoLite fabric from RBTR.. it's almost transparent and makes inspection of your quilt installation a breeze!
    Yes, my pack weighs 70lbs, but it's all light weight gear....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    Can't count how many times I have seen the end cinch overtightened. Not saying yu should do what I do, but the mine are almost full open... cinched just enough to keep them from flopping. Same on my Incubator, Phincupator and Phoenix.

    Side note.. I just mad a hammock of the new MonoLite fabric from RBTR.. it's almost transparent and makes inspection of your quilt installation a breeze!
    I did the same thing and it was amazing how much I learned about hanging my uq by being able to see through the hammock. The number one thing I did wrong was cinching the ends too much. With my Wooki UQ I didn't have to worry about it but with my diy Costco uq, there are a lot of things to keep track of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyhiker View Post
    I did the same thing and it was amazing how much I learned about hanging my uq by being able to see through the hammock. The number one thing I did wrong was cinching the ends too much. With my Wooki UQ I didn't have to worry about it but with my diy Costco uq, there are a lot of things to keep track of.
    I see that when I hang the Phoenix there is a gap created at the foot end cinch regardless of how loose/tight I make it. If I move the Phoenix up towards the head end a bit more I can lessen it. I don't know if I will use the MonoLite regularly but it's certainly a great accessory to use for setting up the quilt.

    Another side note... I had to change the secondary suspension on the Phoenix. I needed longer shock cord at the foot end to get the quilt farther up to the head end. Actually, I did this on all three underquilts.
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    I will second the suggestion of getting some of Dutch's ridgeline quilt hooks. While not needed for a perfectly adjusted UQ, they are very helpful for us solo hangers who don't have the benefit of someone else to check for gaps. The only issue is they got lost easily, but they are cheap and light, so I carry extras.

    Otherwise, my overall impression is that it is pretty rare for the secondary suspension to be too tight, but, as mentioned, quite common for the end cinch cords to be too tight.

    One trick: you are in your hammock, feeling CBS. Using both hands, while still lying down, pull up on the sides of the UQ, and hold it for a minute. Feel warmer? That probably means your suspension is too loose.

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    I was trying to adjust my underquilts earlier today.
    Then I thought the secondary suspension could be adjusted covering more one side than another,
    Does anyone tried it? Does it work?

    Took pictures to show what I mean.
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    Here's a couple shots of a HG phoenix UQ in action. Note how loose the ends are.




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    Thanks Outandback! I'm working on cinching the ends too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfed View Post
    Thanks Outandback! I'm working on cinching the ends too.
    You are welcome. You want just enough tension to close any small sags. It is better to be a little loose that too tight.

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