Hammock Tent Vendor 90 Degree Hammock

[Mogollon Monster]

This works for me:
20170311_172934.jpg by Rickard Andersson, on Flickr

Is the Klymit the only pad used in this photo or is there another pad underneath it, in the sleeve? I've been thinking of doubling up to increase the insulation so I can use this setup in below freezing temperatures.

[OlTrailDog]

My coldest set up thus far is a DIY down UQ in the pad pocket made from a converted sleeping bag with the exped Downmat 7 UL LW on top of the hammock. The differential cut of the pad pocket is key to allowing down or synthetic loft in the pad pocket, not the case with other hammocks such as the WBRR where the insulation is squished due the lack of differential cut.

[team FTB]

am I correct in assuming underquilts cannot be used successfully with this hammock? I like the weight savings the UL provides and looks great for side sleeping but i don't want the bulk of a pad.

[hang-loose]

Use an inflatable and have even less bulk than with an uq...

[Tikker]

Use an inflatable and have even less bulk than with an uq...

insulated inflatable mat is still bulkier than the equivalent down underquilt

[GregfromHolland]

insulated inflatable mat is still bulkier than the equivalent down underquilt

I can't imagine an underquilt being less bulky than an exped ul synmat mw.
But please prove me wrong.
Pictures or it didn't happen ;-)

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[sandworm40]

My coldest set up thus far is a DIY down UQ in the pad pocket made from a converted sleeping bag with the exped Downmat 7 UL LW on top of the hammock. The differential cut of the pad pocket is key to allowing down or synthetic loft in the pad pocket, not the case with other hammocks such as the WBRR where the insulation is squished due the lack of differential cut.

Rob,

What was your lowest temp with this configuration? Also, what did you wear and use for top insulation?

Thanks,
Jim

[Tikker]

I can't imagine an underquilt being less bulky than an exped ul synmat mw.

having a tough time finding apples to apples comparison to that one, I have to admit!

incubator 20 is virtually same weight (19.9 vs 20.2) but 20 degrees vs 25 of the mat

pack size is 10.6 x 3.9

I know with my exped synmat9 it's much bulkier than my underquilts. maybe wrong working, more efficiently packed into a backpack is what I'm thinking? bleargh

[OlTrailDog]

I have never had the combo pad/DIY converted down bag IQ (interquilt in the pad pocket) put to the low temp test other than feasibility experimentation. The lowest I've been down to is in the mid-twenties using the downmat 7 UL LW and a Costco throw in the pad pocket. But I've also been that low with just the Downmat and with just the DIY down IQ alone. Having used both alone I am confident that combined together they will work well to extend the temp range.

During the winter I favor merino wool top and bottoms, usually boxers, but if it is cold enough long johns. Always merino socks and my Blackrock down hat or a merino watch cap (Ibex Meru). I use my sleeping bags as a top quilt: a Brooks Range Alpini 30 down bag until it gets cold; then a WM Antelope 5*; or more often a very nice Moonstone down bag that has a lot of loft but is heavier material than the WM (saves wear and tear on my WM). I use to have a WM Megalight but it was too long and wide for my skinny six feet and I didn't like warming up the extra roominess and I have found that six foot "R" bags work well for me.

[team FTB]

I can't imagine an underquilt being less bulky than an exped ul synmat mw.
But please prove me wrong.
Pictures or it didn't happen ;-)

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I can't imagine an underquilt being less bulky than an exped ul synmat mw.
But please prove me wrong.
Pictures or it didn't happen ;-)

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Here is what i found on the website for the UL Synmat:

Packed Size 3.3 x 9 inches / 3.7 x 9.4 inches / 4 x 11 inches / 3.7 x 11 inches

So it looks like the packed size of a medium is 3.7 x 9.4 inches

My whole Warbonnet BB double layer hammock, Edge tarp, down under and over quilts (20f), suspension and tree straps packs down to 9 x 8.






As a comparison my Bibler bivy sack, NeoAir Xlite small pad(packs down to 3.3 x 9), and top quilt when packed is 6.5x 9.





Now obviously not proof positive but it seems to my simpleton mind the bulk of the pads, even minimal UL pads is more bulk than equivalent down quilts. I believe the UL backpackers also hold this view. Sadly i don't have a sack small enough LOL, to pack the UQ by itself and get a true apples to apples comparison.

I don't need a pad to go to ground as here in SEA there are plenty of tree's for the hammock luckily. The 90 degree hammock looks comfy, its loads lighter, and will most likely pack smaller than my Warbonnet Blackbird. Hence my interest.


I'm like a backpacker looking for the lightest and most packable load that allows me a comfortable sleep. However I'm on a dual sport motorcycle.



but have the same needs as a backpacker.



Thanks in advance for everyones input and contributions.