Adutchable Clips

[jhersh]

I have an 11-ft. Dutch netless hammock that I use with the whoopie hook suspension and tree huggers. Works great, but one occasional annoyance is when the hugger is too long when wrapped around the tree once, but too short to wrap around twice. The result, when wrapped once, is that the extra hugger length adds to the minimum adjustable distance inherent in whoopie slings. Depending on the distance to the other tree, this may or may not be a problem. I see two possible solutions:

1) Attach the hammock directly to any point on the hugger with a marlinspike hitch, essentially bypassing the whoopie sling & hook. I can make this work, but it takes a while, partly because I am sufficiently bad with knots that no matter how many times I practice at home, to do it in the field I have to get out my hand-drawn diagram. Also, it gives up the quick adjustability of the whoopies.

2) It looks like the adutchable clip may be the answer by essentially making the tree strap length adjustable. I have two questions:

2.1: On dutch's website, it states that "this works with tree straps but not huggers. There must be one open end".
Why is this? is the slot in the adutchable too narrow to feed through the loop on the end of a hugger? I have no objection to getting some straps, but that would make the adutchable clip a necessity (i.e., lose them in the field and I have a problem).

2.2: In the description of kevlar straps, it is stated "Kevlar straps have not tested well with Cinch Buckles". Would a kevlar strap work well with an adutchable clip?

[Banjoman]

You could wrap the hugger around twice, and have the whoopie sling run through one loop of the hugger and connect to the other hugger loop = no extra purchase necessary

[sqidmark]

I use adutchables on 2.2 kevlar. No problems what-so-ever.

I can just slip the sewn loop through the adutchable slot with 2.2 both on and off, though off must be done carefully. But with 3.3 only on. This is because the closed loop is able to squeeze through, but the sewn end tends to spread a bit. Also the thickness of the stitching could be an issue. On standard poly and poly/dyneema, fugetaboutit.

I keep my adutchables at the loop end of my straps and never have to worry about it slipping off and getting lost.

EDIT: Additionally, adutchables allow you fine tune suspension length, at the tree. This can be handy for those using straps with msh, jbend or beckett hitch and you only want to move 'em a little bit.

[Dutch]

You will not be able to pass most polyester loops through the slot. However you can sew on after it is threaded.

[goobie]

Am I missing something here?? Wouldn't a MSH and toggle WITH the whoopie sling be the simplest solution??

[jhersh]

Thank you all. Based on sqidmark's comment, it looks like kevlar 2.2 works with adutchables. I will have to try that.

goobie: yes, a MSH would work, but I am trying to keep it as a backup option.

[sqidmark]

Am I missing something here?? Wouldn't a MSH and toggle WITH the whoopie sling be the simplest solution??

The OP indicates he's knot challenged and apparently wishes to avoid that route if possible.

[DuctTapeMessiah]

MSH is a grade school level knot.

[clean]

Hey be nice. If the OP doesn't want to tie knots don't hassle him.


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[Latt]

I'm also using the adutchable with 2.2 kevlar. Works like a charm