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    I should have added that I've been using these Dutch Clips with my straps for several years and many hundreds of hangs. I stopped counting around 500-600 uses into it but you get the idea. They've always been loaded with 300+lbs whether it was me and gear or me and the dogs and gear. I do make the effort to use them correctly with the P config and keeping the strap coming straight off the tree but sometimes things shift and there haven't been any issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcksparow View Post
    Do you use the ti-cinch buckles or the original ones? I'm on the larger size as well, and while I'm leaning toward the ti-buckles, the 300lb rating vexes me. Would feel pretty silly investing in 3000lb webbing and 1/8" amsteel only to have the buckle fail on me.
    I use the regular buckles, some of my set ups have the black cinch buckles, it may just be me but they feel alittle beefier?, either way the regular silver ones have never faild me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratdog View Post
    it's all about the triangles
    Triangles of the sort that AHE sells? Your confidence has convinced me to order a set, if only to try them out. What sets those apart from descending rings, cinch buckles, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilla View Post
    I use the regular buckles, some of my set ups have the black cinch buckles, it may just be me but they feel alittle beefier?, either way the regular silver ones have never faild me.
    Beefed up black cinch buckles, you say? What is this magic of which you speak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcksparow View Post
    Triangles of the sort that AHE sells? Your confidence has convinced me to order a set, if only to try them out. What sets those apart from descending rings, cinch buckles, etc?
    http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/s...hain_Link.html

    I find the triangles to be the most reliable strap suspension. No chance of slippage imho.

    The trade off is they can be a little fiddly to loosen if you have no slack the strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilla View Post
    I am over 440 lbs and i use 3,000 lb straps with cinch buckles without ever having a problem, i also run cl's thru the end of my hammocks , i get the 1/8 th cl's from Dutch.
    What hammock are you using?

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    This may be a good spot to ask...

    Nowhere on Dutch's site do I see a weight rating for the standard cinch buckles. But the TI buckles show a weight rating of 300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoviceNorth View Post
    This may be a good spot to ask...

    Nowhere on Dutch's site do I see a weight rating for the standard cinch buckles. But the TI buckles show a weight rating of 300?
    The steel ones have been tested to over 3000 pounds. They are made for parachutes so they have to take quite a load.
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