Ditching whoopie slings

**poorboystooge** · 04-13-2016, 13:14

Originally Posted by Hammonkey

Just got back from a test trip. Suspension worked flawlessly. No slip and it was super easy to setup. I only had to retie one knot to get it dialed in to where I wanted. Upon inspection of the amsteel after the hang there was no visible deformation, stress, or damage to either continuous loop or suspension side. I'm pretty sold on this setup!

Thanks for the update, I was curious how it would turn out. I might have to try something similar! Do you think a becket hitch would hold better with this amsteel modification?

**Hammonkey** · 04-13-2016, 23:32

I dont see why it wouldn't work. may be a bit of a pain to feed the full length of amsteel through. Just thinking it through it seems the becket hitch would be more difficult to tie. As to better, I cant really compare. The marlin-spike didn't slip and had no visible deformation or damage to the amsteel, so I'm not exactly sure how you improve on that.

**Theguywitheyebrows** · 04-14-2016, 02:06

Seems like its be harder to deal with and undo than the MSH in this configuration. pretty solid technology the msh.

**echinotrix** · 04-14-2016, 05:50

This looks very good, gonna try it.

**echinotrix** · 04-21-2016, 01:33

I tried a slight modification of your idea. I used a 10'' piece of 5/32'' hollow polyester rope and pulled the Amsteel through. Works great, no slippage observed so far, and the inner line shows no sign of wear after one night in the hammock and some jumping around.

Simple, lightweight and easy to adjust. Not as easy as spiders, cinch buckles or whoopies, but still easy enough for me.

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**hutzelbein** · 04-21-2016, 03:23

Neat! Is there any reason why I couldn't use it in place of the muletape as shown here:

I don't have anything I could use as a sleeve handy, so can't test it.

**echinotrix** · 04-21-2016, 06:14

I tried it, the Amsteel slips within the channel. I guess the reason is that the MSH puts pressure on a rather long distance and thus creates enough friction to securely hold the inner line. A slipery half hitch puts pressure on a rather short section of the rope, that's apparently not enough to prevent the core from slipping.

**echinotrix** · 04-21-2016, 15:28

Sorry everybody, but my idea is not working. I do not know why it worked when I tried it for the first time, but now it slips when I jump around in the hammock. So do not use this at the moment. You're gonna die!

Can anyone confirm stability of the original construction with the webbing? I am still interested and will continue to experiment with this approach.

**Hammonkey** · 04-22-2016, 01:54

I never noticed any slippage, and I weigh 250lbs. I do make sure to pull the MSH nice and tight before attaching my hammock. Another thing i do is put the loop ON the knot, not behind it, not sure if that makes any difference.

**echinotrix** · 04-22-2016, 05:06

I also put the loop on the knot, not on the toggle. Also, I tightened up the MSH and gave it some decent pulls before entering the hammock. It did not slip at first, but after some minutes. Strangely, it did not slip when I tried the system first, not even when jumping around in the hammock. Maybe it's because of the polyester rope I used as shell. I plan to try to use the outer part of some 550 paracord, that's made from nylon. Might work better.