February gear run

[gunner76]

#4) Toaks titanium shepherds hooks

I have some of those stakes and the only problem I find with them is they do not hold too well in sandy soil. I also carry a 4 Ti V stakes depending on the soil type I will run into.

#6) UQ- Incubator 20 degree

You can save a few ounces and $$ by going with the Phoenix 3/4 UQ. I just throw my jacket at the foot of the hammock and place my feet on it to provide insulation.

[mtntopper]

I am going light weight next year, and have come up with this list. My usual pack weight is 45 to 50 pounds, so this new system I am gonna spend around $1500.00 and get my weight dropped down a lot.
#1) Pack- ULA Ohm2.0
#2) Hammock- Hammeck Netty (I already own)
#3) Tarp- standard cuban fiber with doors, "in camo" 12' ridge line & snake skins
#4) Toaks titanium shepherds hooks
#5) TQ- Burrow 20 degree
#6) UQ- Incubator 20 degree
#7) New suspension- cinch buckle system
#8) Cookware- Toaks 750ml pot, BRS titanium stove,
I still have till February too make my decision. This is a lot of money but my back needs this, besides my wallet will be light, lol.
So if anyone has any suggestions I would like to hear them. Thx, Rick.

I to debated between the circuit and the ohm. I chose the circuit and I really enjoy this pack. I agree with what some others have said about the tarp. 12ft ridge is rather long for the hammocks that I use. I like the idea to get a tarp with doors as well. I tried whoopie slings but chose to go with the cinch buckles instead, they were easier for me to adjust. Good luck with your choices.

[gfortune]

It would be interesting to see what you have currently for those 8 items along with the weight of each as well as the expected weight savings. I've been working on reducing my pack weight as well and I'm in a very similar spot to you right now for the 4-5 day trips. I've since upgraded my sleep system from a tent to a hammock, but a heavy temporary "OQ" and a heavy overly large tarp are going to put me about break even with my ground setup. On a positive note, it may gain me a few degrees of temp and I expect to be far more comfortable. The ground hurts now.

I am the recent proud owner of the UQ you are considering with an extra oz of overstuff. In the future, I'll replace the OQ and zero in on a tarp I feel comfortable with which could save me 1-2 lbs over the ground system I had. The pack is the next big one for me with a potential weight savings of 4-5 lbs and I think I'm at the point with my base weight that I can consider one of the really light packs which will be a big adjustment for me.

[Rick68]

whoopies/kevlar huggers would save some weight. If I was using anything less than a Circuit, I'd wanna shave as much as possible.

I did the whoopie sling at first, and then did a test on mine and marked it with a black marker and the whoopie sling had moved almost 2". That kinda made me nervous.

[Rick68]

I have some of those stakes and the only problem I find with them is they do not hold too well in sandy soil. I also carry a 4 Ti V stakes depending on the soil type I will run into.



You can save a few ounces and $$ by going with the Phoenix 3/4 UQ. I just throw my jacket at the foot of the hammock and place my feet on it to provide insulation.

Yea I tried going minimal on this and found I am a cold sleeper, and I want to be comfortable when I am out there. I think if I was thru hiking I would probably do this, and deal with a little cold calf. But I disperse camp around SHNF and I stay in one place.

[Rick68]

It would be interesting to see what you have currently for those 8 items along with the weight of each as well as the expected weight savings. I've been working on reducing my pack weight as well and I'm in a very similar spot to you right now for the 4-5 day trips. I've since upgraded my sleep system from a tent to a hammock, but a heavy temporary "OQ" and a heavy overly large tarp are going to put me about break even with my ground setup. On a positive note, it may gain me a few degrees of temp and I expect to be far more comfortable. The ground hurts now.

I am the recent proud owner of the UQ you are considering with an extra oz of overstuff. In the future, I'll replace the OQ and zero in on a tarp I feel comfortable with which could save me 1-2 lbs over the ground system I had. The pack is the next big one for me with a potential weight savings of 4-5 lbs and I think I'm at the point with my base weight that I can consider one of the really light packs which will be a big adjustment for me.

I originally got into the bush craft scene, and had to have everything I saw.
1st my pack is a Kelty 80, "over 5lbs heavy. Kelty Teton 2 tent, with ground cloth.
my cook kit is all stainless, Military sleep system, DD 10x10 tarp, axe, saw, kit for this, kit for that it goes on and on.

[Rick68]

Mostly things are gonna stay the same I changed my mind on one thing so far. I am gonna give my Hammeck Netty to my son and get him out of my old DD hammock. I am gonna go with a new Dream Hammock (Sparrow). 4 seasons, the weight is still less then my tent or my old system. I wanna thx those who have commented and helped me out. Thx, Rick..

[Canahang]

I just received my sparrow from DH and the thing is absolutely top notch and the most comfy thing I have ever laid in. It's a bit heavier but you can always leave behind the net or over over if the trip doesn't call for it and you want to save weight. Good choice!

[gfortune]

I originally got into the bush craft scene, and had to have everything I saw.
1st my pack is a Kelty 80, "over 5lbs heavy. Kelty Teton 2 tent, with ground cloth.
my cook kit is all stainless, Military sleep system, DD 10x10 tarp, axe, saw, kit for this, kit for that it goes on and on.

I feel you on the pack. The one I'm using is a Cabela's hunting pack from the 90's and it weighs in at a paltry 6.5 lbs. It's definitely my next upgrade.

[cjayflo]

If you are only buying one tarp go with the palace. If you are buying a winter and a summer tarp go with a superfly and a smaller cuben. Do you really need a palace with doors for year round use in Texas?