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    no matter what i do

    i buy a blackbird, which i love btw, to keep things light. But by the time I had a tarp, UQ, sleeping bag, stakes, stuff sacs, guy lines, my weight for my sleep system is up to 7 lbs 6 ozs. How can i lighten up this cold weather set up,

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    Quote Originally Posted by downes911 View Post
    i buy a blackbird, which i love btw, to keep things light. But by the time I had a tarp, UQ, sleeping bag, stakes, stuff sacs, guy lines, my weight for my sleep system is up to 7 lbs 6 ozs. How can i lighten up this cold weather set up,
    can you list the items separately? curious as to what UQ, what tarp, which BB, etc
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    Yeah .... list weights and name brands ...
    Details ... we need details.
    I was a tarp/bivy/lite bag/ super small pad guy for a while. No way did I have the comfort that I now have. Also .... my winter kit always gets a bit heavier .... but it is WINTER and I do not want to sleep cold since 1/3 of my time is in the hammock sleeping wonderfully.
    We can guide you somewhat ..... ultimately you gotta do what pleases you though. It all still gets you to the woods.
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    I'm also weight conscious "not weenie" and find my hammock set-up lighter then my ultralight tent set-up.

    Speer hammock with Silnylon tarp lighter then my tent/fly/fp.
    Yeti UQ lighter then my Thermarest Prolite.
    I use the same down bag in both.

    This is for 3 seasons so additional weight would be added for below freezing.

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    tq will be lighter than a sleeping bag

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    Let's see...
    Blackbird 1.1 DL w/ straps: 28 oz
    2 JRB Hudson River quilts: 40 oz
    MacCat Deluxe w/ lines: 13 oz
    stakes: 5 oz

    5.4 lbs, can get down into the low 20F temps.

    What you using for quilts? What sleeping bag?

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    okay details:

    JRB mt. washington UQ 24.8 in compression stuff sac; BB DL 1.1 31.5; trango superfly wire biners 1.1 oz ea; have both mac cat deluxe or WB superfly 18/26 w/o and with doors (would take doors for 1 side); WM versalite 38.1 dry bag'd; 8 ti stakes 3.1

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    well you could switch to whoopies and save a few ounces, you could start by going with 4 stakes instead of 8 and then tying off the blackbird to the top two stakes by top i mean towards your head, that way two of the four stakes do double duty and hold the tarp and the bird.

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    You could lop off a good 18 oz just by getting a top quilt. Yeah, that's a really really great bag... but it's pushing your weight right up there.

    I can whack a pound off my weight by taking a foam pad in 40F and above temps.

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    Add a pack, light stove, and water treatment and you're still under 12 lbs. base weight.

    You could switch to a top quilt, netless hammock, 2/3 underquilt, and save 1 1/2 lbs.

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