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    UQ for Winter Hammocking- Old topic old discussion but new for hammocking newbie like me!

    I started feeling a bit cold during my last backpacking trip with my Phoenix 20F when the temp was around freezing (32F). So I practically confirmed that the rating of the UQ is similar to a sleeping bag where you only feel comfortable at about 10F above the rated temp of the UQ.....
    I looked around and found none that actually sells UQ that is rated below 0F. There must be a reason for that...I think....I know UQ sellers such as HG will customize the UQ to whatever the temp rating that you need, but that will add cost and weight...so do you know why people dont make regular UQ that is rated below 0F when sleeping bags actually do...?
    I have a cuben tarp (HG) with doors and am seeking for creative ways to be able to get by in a hammock in the range of 0F to -10F in Ohio and PA Winter weather, what are your suggestions? thank you.....

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    I'm pretty sure Shug will offer his insight. The man has substantial cold-weather hanging experience.

    If he's not around to pipe in, go looking for his vids.

    If a manufacturer here were to have a regular offering as you suggest, it probably wouldn't be priced all that much cheaper than having it "custom" made. And of course it's going to be heavier. There obviously isn't enough demand to make it as a "regular" item. The irony here is that they're all custom!

    I think there is a much stronger market for cold weather sleeping bags (and the good ones will set you back a bunch of bucks) than there is for the UQ you describe, just as there is a bigger market for sleeping bags and pads than UQs and TQs.

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    Subzero I use ccf pads exclusively. They are bulky, but they provide the insulation necessary for the extreme temps. Minus 22 f so far, and quite warm.
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    The issue is sleeping bags are placed directly on insulation thereby helping to give a more accurate insulation reading. With hammocks there is more ventilation robbing warmth. There are several threads discussing ways to increase the warmth, heat a water bottle use a UQ cover, hang a blanket over the top quilt, wear insulated clothing, eat a good meal before going to sleep etc.

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    I had to go the custom route for my -50C quilt set. Unfortunately, the place I got them from is no longer operating. You always have the option of layering. I do this for my son when he comes out during the winter. Dual -7C quilts gets him down to about -15-20C.

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    Go with a zero degree HG incubator with 2-4 oz of overfill. Take a 3/4 to 1" closed cell foam pad and put that under your feet. I used the foam pad off the back of my pack. If that doesn't cut it, add your 20 degree phoenix on top of all that but not too tight. Stip down to a good base layer that's not too tight or too lose. If you wear more than that, let it be some down layers. Play with it until you get it dialed in. I'm a cold sleeper. A 20 degree quilt can be chilly to me when it's 36. If the temp is going to be down around 0 then I'd want 0 degree quilts with overfill, the pad under my feet and I'd consider down booties. I'd also recommend a down hat.

    Gideon

    PS, for temperatures like you're talking about you have to be realistic about the weight. It takes weight to be warm in extreme cold whether it's with hammocks or tents and pads.

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    I have HG 40*, 20* and 0* underquilts. I don't plan on buying any -10* or -20* F underquilts - I'll just stack my quilts for those conditions.
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    I have found that when pushing the 0 degree mark that some type of a pod, Spindrift or equivalent really boosts the temperature rating of your quilts. Otherwise, the cold air around you will push your quilts to the limit. The added protection given by these add ons will make hammock camping much more comfortable. That being said, condensation will become an issue when you use these. So you will have to experiment with venting to eliminate this.
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    I just plan to stack quilts when the extreme cold hits.
    My plan is to get a long 0* UQ that will engulf my full length 20* UQ which should take me nicely into the deep negatives.
    For TQ I will have a 40*, 20*, 0*, and a 15* SB. (everything is 850 dry down) So a combination of them should take care of the worst negative temps I will ever see.
    Also I will use a cotton canvas drop cloth hung over the ridge line draped to the ground to keep the weather (snow and wind) out or set up my DIY just made Canvas Winter shelter, which will be wood stove ready, but have no intent of feeding the fire by night cause I wanna sleep.
    Either way once I get all the bits it is gonna be a lot of fun back yard testing it all out....By Feb I will be salivating for some -40 nights...I think haha.
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    Dude, you are more hardcore than me! I hammock from Mar-Nov only and I live in the mid atlantic.

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