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    Hammeck Envy vs Envy S weights

    I'm probably over analyzing, but does the weights quoted for the Envy include both the netting and the overcover?

    I am looking at an 11' Single Layer in Argon 1.6 the charts show:

    Envy S 29.9 oz
    Envy 30.4 oz
    Netty 21.7 oz

    I am guessing that the Envy weight includes both covers since with just the bugnet cover it should weigh the same as a Netty and the Envy S would be (slightly) lighter than carrying both covers.
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    You're probably right, but I think the Netty has a lighter zipper... likely not 9 oz. lighter.

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    The removable bug net for my 11 ft ENVY S weighs 4.3 ounces with it stuff sack. As you order the bug net as a seperate option I don't think its weight is included in the weight of the hammeck/topcover.

    From Hammecks site....
    Also, the optional bugnet adds approximately 4.4 ounces to the total pack weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner76 View Post
    The removable bug net for my 11 ft ENVY S weighs 4.3 ounces with it stuff sack. As you order the bug net as a seperate option I don't think its weight is included in the weight of the hammeck/topcover.

    From Hammecks site.... .
    I believe that the Envy includes both cover and bug net. From the Envy page. "The Envy is our sewn-channel gathered end hammock, complete with an integrated bugnet and cover. The bugnet and cover are completely removable, so you can leave one or both at home, depending on conditions." I agree that the bug net would not be included in the Envy S weights, but what I wanted to know is the weight of each part of the Envy: body, top cover, and bug net.
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    what I wanted to know is the weight of each part of the Envy: body, top cover, and bug net.
    It will vary based on the length of the hammock ( 10 ft or 11 ft ), single or double layer and the fabric used.
    I am still 18 but with 51 years of experience !

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    Well, I ordered and received a single layer Argon 1.6 Envy. Here are the weights of each component:

    Envy body with continuous loops to attach suspension - 14.1 oz
    Top Cover (no sack) - 6.4 oz
    Bug Net (no sack) - 3.9 oz
    Small sacks for bug net & cover (2 provided) - 0.4 oz each
    Double-ended stuff sack - 1.0 oz
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