2" suspension

**Dux** · 06-20-2015, 10:34

Been thinking about this myself of late. Noticed that on some of the thinner barked trees, such as Paper Birch, you can see where the 1" straps dug into the bark a little many weeks later. Might be purely cosmetic, yet why take the chance? "Don't make a problem, there won't be a problem."

As to whether 2" straps will significantly reduce that, time will tell. Worth a try.

**Dutch** · 06-20-2015, 10:53

I have something in the works for this. I know I have been quiet lately but you can believe I have not been idle. I have new fabric, finished products, a new big and tall line that will have 2 inch straps....
2 weeks

**Loki** · 06-20-2015, 20:19

Originally Posted by Dutch

I have something in the works for this. I know I have been quiet lately but you can believe I have not been idle. I have new fabric, finished products, a new big and tall line that will have 2 inch straps....
2 weeks

Yea! Only two weeks.

**sandykayak** · 06-20-2015, 20:47

Originally Posted by Dutch

I have something in the works for this. I know I have been quiet lately but you can believe I have not been idle. I have new fabric, finished products, a new big and tall line that will have 2 inch straps....
2 weeks

AND either suitable hardware or, preferably, one that that we can use our Dutch clips etc.

**TominMN** · 06-23-2015, 14:32

Originally Posted by Dutch

I don't make 2 inch hardware because it uses so much Titanium the weight saving over a biner diminishes while the cost sky rockets.

Dutch,

What about good old retro stuff in aluminum for the 2" need? Would still beat a 'biner.

**TominMN** · 06-23-2015, 14:37

Originally Posted by Dux

Been thinking about this myself of late. Noticed that on some of the thinner barked trees, such as Paper Birch, you can see where the 1" straps dug into the bark a little many weeks later. Might be purely cosmetic, yet why take the chance? "Don't make a problem, there won't be a problem."

As to whether 2" straps will significantly reduce that, time will tell. Worth a try.

Never have hung on a birch or similar. Seems like this might be a good reason for all of us to avoid doing so in the future(?) Maybe regardless of webbing width(?)

**T- Minus** · 06-23-2015, 15:18

was gonna suggest to make a 2-3 inch sleeve for current suspension system, to make it compliant with current state rules. Letwo-comfortable-font-b-backpack-b-font-decompression-slip-resistant-font-b-shoulder-b-font-fon.jpg <<<<Something like this but a little bigger? Those are just shoulder pads.

**dakotaross** · 06-23-2015, 15:40

Originally Posted by Dutch

...a new big and tall line that will have 2 inch straps....
2 weeks

Originally Posted by Loki

Yea! Only two weeks.

Only 2 weeks! Dutchwaregear is my Money Pit!

**Dux** · 06-23-2015, 16:03

Originally Posted by TominMN

Never have hung on a birch or similar. Seems like this might be a good reason for all of us to avoid doing so in the future(?) Maybe regardless of webbing width(?)

I use thicker barked trees such as oak, hickory, cottonwood, spruce, pine, etc when I can. Also larger trees when possible. Figured everyone else was also.

I have been able to see a slight indentation and a little abrasion of the bark mainly on younger trees (<8"dia). So far birch have shown it the worst though young maples and cottonwoods have also.

Maybe as a hunter, trapper, tracker, primitive skills, wild edibles, etc kind of guy I just pay more attention to such things. That or maybe I'm a lil OCD.

Is it damaging the trees? No apparent damage so far. Still, why give anyone a reason (real or imagined) to run down our hobby? Hate for us to be lumped in with those who leave clotheslines, nails, etc in/on trees in campgrounds.

**LuvmyBonnet** · 06-23-2015, 16:24

Originally Posted by hk2001

I would love to see the adutchable clip in 2" I heard some NY DEC guys talking about 2" webbing maybe becoming a standard in NY as well. (although I've yet to find anything official about it)

That being said, I'd LOVE to see sew on dutch clips (or adutchable clips) capable of taking 2" webbing. I've made a few pair of the 2" to 1" conversion straps, but I have a hard time giving up my dutch clips.

I really hope NY isn't going to follow in the footsteps of FL. 2" straps are ridiculous. Do they really think that 1 1/2" straps damage the trees and 2" straps don't. This is just another example of the nincompoops who make our laws.
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