I don't know - FYI he did a high pitch for the camera (nothing wrong here) - if you are ever in this as a pinch the pitch must be sides on the ground! knocking wind that gives wind chill is key to survival. Personally after trying out this stuff in the field... its not in my backpack. Cuban or sil is still the best way to knock chill in a pinch with a compressible down bag.
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